Lightweights

[recracer]

Originally Posted by SamM

We can plate just about anything in WV. Just saying!

SamM

Good To know

[recracer]

Cleveland FXx striped down picture

[mmprestine]

Well perhaps I was wrong. If they do make this happen I am sure they will have much success with them if the pricing is right. Sure looks like a fun toy. I wonder what the wheel base is? To bad the frame isn't alloy.

[recracer]

Another view . Appears both front and rear hand brakes .

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the new photos, Racer. I don't see a rear brake pedal, but surely this bike needs a clutch lever, doesn't it?

[recracer]

Originally Posted by SpudRider

Thanks for posting the new photos, Racer. I don't see a rear brake pedal, but surely this bike needs a clutch lever, doesn't it?

semi-auto 4 speed no clutch . Cleveland FXx is the only one I have seen with the semi-auto 110cc . The others are 125cc . I always think I want a clutch , But then wonder why so many trail riders want a rekluse auto clutch.

[Weldangrind]

I prefer a clutch, because I can match revs when downshifting. A semi-automatic doesn't allow that; you simply bang gears down.

[recracer]

I just read FX bike will be available both manual clutch or semi auto .

[Weldangrind]

A Rekluse and two hand brakes is ideal when fording creeks, but that's not my riding style. I'm happy with conventional controls.

I'm fascinated by the swingarm design of the FX bike. They took advantage of the short motor by shoving it up high, and then arranged the swingarm for maximum ground clearance. It looks like the seat height would suit a six footer, and the frame would clear big logs. Very cool.

[SpudRider]

When I'm riding single track or technical dual track, I am constantly working the clutch under throttle, and while coasting/braking. I don't think I would like a semi-automatic clutch.

[recracer]

I have been told video's have been made ,But can not be released yet . I really want to see the bike in action and what kind of response comes from an auto clutch. I agree manual clutch seems it would be easier to snap front end lift to get over the ridges and logs . I do wonder, can a bike this light change my mind .

[pete]

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

A Rekluse and two hand brakes is ideal when fording creeks, but that's not my riding style. I'm happy with conventional controls.

My XT660R & TTR250 both have Rekluse EXP2 clutchs in them..
The EXP gives both full manual & full auto clutch in one...

Rekluse don't make a clutch for either the XTR or the TTR but
I have fitted a WR450 unit in the XTR & a WR250 unit in the TTR...




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[mmprestine]

The ground clearance is impressive. If that is a standard height dirt bike stand then it is several inches above normal. I agree that the swing arm design is interesting. I would still like to see more specs, seat height, wheel base, weight, etc. I really wonder what the real weight will be, 200lbs comes pretty fast when working with steel.

[mmprestine]

they should have a heavy duty skid plate on the bottom to protect the exhaust and engine. The epa pipe on the left side will get ripped off on the first ride.

[Weldangrind]

Originally Posted by mmprestine

The ground clearance is impressive. If that is a standard height dirt bike stand then it is several inches above normal. I agree that the swing arm design is interesting. I would still like to see more specs, seat height, wheel base, weight, etc. I really wonder what the real weight will be, 200lbs comes pretty fast when working with steel.

The trellis frame and round tube frame designs found on the first page of this thread look to be considerably lighter. Rather than a lower cradle like the FX bike, the other two use the engine as a stressed member, CRF50-style. They use a standard horizontal motor skidplate.

I'd be much happier with one of those designs than the FX version. Like you say, steel adds up quickly.