Hawk 250 engine parts - shift lever (not just pedal)

[richinar]

Sooo
The shift lever broke on my Hawk yesterday after a slow low side yesterday. Not the pedal, no, no, but the lever rod itself just inside of the splines. Twisted right off. This is a stock pedal clamp with my own bolt. Suspect I shouldn’t have used a bolt that wouldn’t strip out and allow the clamp to shred.
Yay!!!
Who carries stock engine parts and is responsive? Does the TT250 engine match?

[JerryHawk250]

The TT250 looks like a possible match but not sure. Check with TXpowersports

[richinar]

Ah. I didn’t see that Txpowersprt had the Hawk
I have been in touch. I bet that’s it.

In cracking into this I’ll need a book.
Which Honda engine should I look for a manual on?

[JerryHawk250]

Originally Posted by richinar

Ah. I didn’t see that Txpowersprt had the Hawk
I have been in touch. I bet that’s it.

In cracking into this I’ll need a book.
Which Honda engine should I look for a manual on?

I have two manuals I can email you. PM me your email address and i'll send them to you.

[richinar]

Thanks a ton
So, could I presume that a CG125 gearshift linkage and spindle will also fit? A Honda part would ease my mind.

[JerryHawk250]

Originally Posted by richinar

Thanks a ton
So, could I presume that a CG125 gearshift linkage and spindle will also fit? A Honda part would ease my mind.

That I could not answer unless I had one in hand to take measurements.

[richinar]

Yeah. I’m gonna pull it and take with me to the Honda dealer this morning.
Will have part numbers handy from offshore vendors where the CG125 motor was quite plentiful.

[JerryHawk250]

Originally Posted by richinar

Yeah. I’m gonna pull it and take with me to the Honda dealer this morning.
Will have part numbers handy from offshore vendors where the CG125 motor was quite plentiful.

Good luck, hope it works out.

[franque]

Originally Posted by richinar

Yeah. I’m gonna pull it and take with me to the Honda dealer this morning.
Will have part numbers handy from offshore vendors where the CG125 motor was quite plentiful.

You're better off going to a China bike dealer. Honda dealers in the US can't get parts for things sold overseas... My friend, a parts manager at one, was looking into getting black CRF250L bodywork, and basically was going to have to order it from Thailand, from a Thai dealer shipped to his house to get it. That being said, I have access to in-Honda, their online parts catalogue, and I could probably let you know if there's any cross reference with a USDM model(most parts guys don't know how to do that). My guess is that there could be interchange between a cb125 and your bike, assuming it is a 5-speed with a conventional shift pattern.

[richinar]

Right I was thinking CB had same crankcase as drawings “appear” “similar”. Although conventional wisdom states the CB125 ceased US sales in ‘85.

TX Poweraporta didn’t have the part and are checking with supplier. Ricky’s has not responded to requests through email, phone, or PM here with Adam.

the part goes by different names depending on the source but “gearshift spindle” appears to be the more forthright convention. Looking at my setup and the resulting damage I feel I may have also put the pedal at to dramatic and angle to the clamp, forcing a twisting shear. I took some close ups of the spindle failure and it appears the metal had a lot of flake/impurity, not surprising.

[JerryHawk250]

You could call CSC and have them verify a few measurements like shaft diameter and length as I think it would be a match. Worth a try.

[franque]

24610-107-760 Is the part number for all of the vertical (OHC XL, CL, SL, CB, TL, NX, and CT) 5-Speed 100-125 singles sold in the US up to 1989 (but not the XR100, that's a different motor all together). It appears that it is still available on IN, but I'd call a dealer just to double check, because sometimes it appears available until you order it.

It is possible that it is a different length than the one that you are working with, solely based on the fact that it is kick and electric start (the electric start side cover is a bit wider, but I don't think it is wider right there). It should cost $50 or less. XR200s are different, at least in terms of part numbers.

[pistolclass]

Any chance you can weld it up until you find a replacement?

[richinar]

Local dealer had no new but did have a used part - in fact, they had 3!
$20.82 including tax
have test fit everything and its a perfect match

Honda is shorter by a pinch - not a problem at all
the big difference is the spindle material

will post detailed side by side comparison later

THANKS for the help!!!

[JerryHawk250]

Originally Posted by richinar

Local dealer had no new but did have a used part - they had 3!
$20.82 including tax
have test fit everything and its a perfect match

Honda is shorter by a pinch - not a problem at all
the big difference is the spindle material

will post detailed side by side comparison later

THANKS for the help!!!

That's good to know. You and franque have uncovered valuable information. Another part number to add to list.