SSR XF250 Enduro

[wlfpck]

Contemplating picking up the SSR XF250 right now. Question is what is this a clone of?

I'm curious as to what parts will be able to swap over. Is it the CRF250 parts for things like the seat/plastics/fuel tank/etc?

Curious because that would be a nice little carb'ed bike to own that finding parts would be easy.

I'm assuming the engine is based on the Honda CG250?

[JerryHawk250]

The engine is based off the CB250. It has the OHC. Not sure what bike the plastics will swap with.
Have you looked at the Orion RXB-250L ? https://www.orionpowersports.com/ori...embled-tested/

[david3921]

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

The engine is based off the CB250. It has the OHC. Not sure what bike the plastics will swap with.
Have you looked at the Orion RXB-250L ? https://www.orionpowersports.com/ori...embled-tested/

Sorry to correct you but it's based on the Suzuki 250 rather than a Honda. If it's fuel injected, then it would be the TU250. These have the same frames as the Suzukis and the motor bits will probably interchange but that's about it.

[david3921]

Ok, something weird is going on. There seems to be a "new" XF250 shown here;
http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/enduro/xf250.php

That one does look Honda based. But, look at the cylinder head. There is no way that is a 250. More like a 125. What's up with that?

[Dusman]

I too was looking at the XF250 over a year ago but my understanding was that while it’s a super reliable dual sport, parts could be hard to come by. This fellow is a member here and did some great videos and a 15K mile review on this bike:



He said he thought the engine was based on a Suzuki TU250.

[Dusman]

Here’s a video of the same gentleman riding the XF as it reached @ 22K miles earlier this year:

[dh]

Originally Posted by david3921

Ok, something weird is going on. There seems to be a "new" XF250 shown here;
http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/enduro/xf250.php

That one does look Honda based. But, look at the cylinder head. There is no way that is a 250. More like a 125. What's up with that?

David unless I missed something on the SSR site, the only difference in this "New" one and my 2013 is the addition of the gas gauge.

Also I should add that I hit 83 mph on the highway with a tailwind so that's not the norm.

[NzBrakelathes]

Qingqi who makes these is dead in China
All local sales of all their models are gone burgers
Maybe they still export under their sister company brand “Pioneer”

[david3921]

Originally Posted by dh

David unless I missed something on the SSR site, the only difference in this "New" one and my 2013 is the addition of the gas gauge.

Also I should add that I hit 83 mph on the highway with a tailwind so that's not the norm.

Take a look at the cylinder head on the new 250, dh, and compare it to yours. Even if it is now Honda based, the engine's head is way too small to be 249cc as they state in the specs. What is a customer really going to get if they order one?

[JerryHawk250]

Originally Posted by david3921

Sorry to correct you but it's based on the Suzuki 250 rather than a Honda. If it's fuel injected, then it would be the TU250. These have the same frames as the Suzukis and the motor bits will probably interchange but that's about it.

I stand corrected. That's what happens when you looking at this stuff on your phone. lol

[wheelbender6]

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

The engine is based off the CB250. It has the OHC. Not sure what bike the plastics will swap with.
Have you looked at the Orion RXB-250L ? https://www.orionpowersports.com/ori...embled-tested/

Looks like the Orion is out of stock now. Is the Orion noticably faster than the 229cc OHV dual sports?

[wlfpck]

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

The engine is based off the CB250. It has the OHC. Not sure what bike the plastics will swap with.
Have you looked at the Orion RXB-250L ? https://www.orionpowersports.com/ori...embled-tested/

That actually looks pretty cool. They say it's a KTM styled bike. Does the KTM plastics and stuff swap over? Or Honda, kawasaki, suzuki?

Reason I ask is with the grom clones it was super easy to find replacement parts. Just had to buy grom plastics and what not. Stuff like seat, plastics, etc.

And what about this one. Seems like this one is CARB street legal.

https://www.orionpowersports.com/apo...embled-tested/

[JerryHawk250]

Originally Posted by wlfpck

That actually looks pretty cool. They say it's a KTM styled bike. Does the KTM plastics and stuff swap over? Or Honda, kawasaki, suzuki?

Reason I ask is with the grom clones it was super easy to find replacement parts. Just had to buy grom plastics and what not. Stuff like seat, plastics, etc.

And what about this one. Seems like this one is CARB street legal.

https://www.orionpowersports.com/apo...embled-tested/

That i'm not sure of but replacement parts and plastics can be bought from Orion Powersports.

[JerryHawk250]

The Apollo DB-36 RX250cc DELUXE is another nice bike too. Orion carries the part for it too.

[wlfpck]

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

The Apollo DB-36 RX250cc DELUXE is another nice bike too. Orion carries the part for it too.

That's good to hear. Seems like Orion is a better dealer.

But let's say we you need parts asap. Do you know if these are clones of other bikes? Like say you ripped the seat open and you needed a new one... could you run to Honda and grab one for a CRF250? Or Kawasaki and grab one from a KLX250? Yamaha? Suzuki?

Just kind of curious as that's what a lot of people do with the Grom clones. Something breaks... honda dealership.

More importantly, this means the aftermarket parts like upgraded skid plates, upgraded shocks, upgraded forks, etc will all swap as well.