New Upstate NY member - Page 2

Bruce's · 03-11-2017, 10:05 AM

It's people like Don who are ruining the market on these fun little bikes .

Jaybay33 · 03-11-2017, 10:06 AM

So how much assembly is actually required. I am just curious as I have never dealt with one of these bikes. I just want to know what I am getting into. Is it about the same assembly as the hawk?

culcune · 03-11-2017, 10:32 AM

Enforcer17 and ski_rush are the two members around here who just bought them and assembled them. Look over their threads on assembly and what not. It took longer than 'an hour'. Don seems to be a decent dealer, provided you have some mechanical knowledge, and patience (shipping times seems to be an issue with some dealers, including his, as of late), but for quite a while, his reputation was impeccable. He was the dealer of dealers. Then, he started making promises that couldn't be kept to some members. It seemed odd, a fluke, maybe the members were like those same people 10 years ago who bought Chinese bikes for $1k and expected the quality and ability to be beaten up like a $4k Honda? Then, it kept happening, mostly with promises of shipping and actual shipping times, and no communication as to what is REALLY going on. No, I don't mean to beat up on him, but just from all the negative posts regarding ASPCUSA the past year. Obviously, there are happy purchasers, including our two Enforcer guinea pigs, ski_rush and Enforcer17, so it isn't all gloom and doom with ASPCUSA, either. But even with them, they couldn't get a green one, as they were told something about a train and a warehouse back in California, and found out the engine was not a counter-balanced one as Don admitted he had not seen an Enforcer in person (thus these two purchasers were really and truly guinea pigs).

All that being said, I am sure your purchase for an Enforcer will go fine. He does seem to have good service with certain products, and the Enforcer is one of them. The two members who bought one, and the rest of us, can help you assemble your bike, and don't be surprised if it takes you a few days.

Ski_rush · 03-11-2017, 11:33 AM

Assembly of the Enforcer takes more than an hour. But, I really took my time to do it right and enjoy the process. I used thread locker on everything that I could and should. I also used grease on the axle bolt. I could have assembled it an hour, but why rush it? After I was done I wanted to do it again.

You have to mount the handle bar, throttle grip, front brake lever to the handle bar, and instrument cluster. After that, it gets really easy. Mount up the front fender, headlight, front wheel, etc. It's really very simple. The only wiring is plugging in the headlight.

The hard thing is that there are no instructions and mine came with a lot of these extra metal grommets that I didn't need. So I sat there wondering where they go and why I had them...Then others on here confirmed that their bikes were also shipped with extra hardware too.

It went together well and didn't take long. There's also time involved in filling and charging the battery and changing the oil and brake fluid.

On a side note, I had no shipping damage and the fit and finish of the bike is impressive... Especially for this price.

I'm still planning on posting a build thread; it just takes time to do that... Ironically, about as long as building the bike

Bruce's · 03-11-2017, 10:18 AM

It should be very close to the hawk ,we do not know much about the enforcer yet ,they are very new and I think we have only two assembled so far and that was this past week ,you might look at those threads to see if it's something you might take on .

Jaybay33 · 03-11-2017, 10:22 AM

ok cool, thanks for you help

hertz9753 · 03-19-2017, 12:42 AM

I have a house bike, but it has to sleep in the entry. I remember the time that the stock exhaust was caught laying in the bathroom. I couldn't blame it on the dog because it was to heavy.

manny · 03-27-2017, 06:29 PM

Well, I am going to TRY and re-order an Enforcer...I have been giving it a lot of thought. There are things I like better about the Brozz, but there are also things i like better on the Enforcer (wheels, tires for one). It seems I can buy the Enforcer for considerably less than the Brozz too, so if i can get Don to call me back I'm going to give er a try...again! Bottom line, I haven't been on a bike other than my ATV's in 25 years or so, so this will be a good place to start I think.

hertz9753 · 03-27-2017, 07:25 PM

I will sell you a Pretty 1980 Kawasaki KX125. It's street legal because I said it is.

BlackBike · 03-27-2017, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hertz9753

I will sell you a Pretty 1980 Kawasaki KX125. It's street legal because I said it is.

But then again a Malibu Barbie car is street legal in North Dakota, or was that south dakota

hertz9753 · 03-28-2017, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike

But then again a Malibu Barbie car is street legal in North Dakota, or was that south dakota

I have 5 sisters and I broke a real Barbie plastic pink Corvette in the early 70's.

We also have old cars and trucks.

rwl6935 · 03-28-2017, 08:32 AM

Manny,

I've been going back and forth with don via email regarding the enforcer, so yesterday decided to give him a call, one of his employees answered the phone. I asked for don but, apparently he was busy. I asked the guy some questions about the bike. I also asked him how I should go about ordering one since don quoted me a price different than what he has posted on the web. I told the guy I want to place an order for one... he started studdering and said you better talk to don, don will call you back.

... should I hold my breath?

On the hawk I bought... still haven't received the replacement seat as of yet or the paperwork. I have a feeling that the stall tactic is to get you passed the point of no return as in passed the return limit date.

This is BS!

Ski_rush · 03-28-2017, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rwl6935

Manny,

I've been going back and forth with don via email regarding the enforcer, so yesterday decided to give him a call, one of his employees answered the phone. I asked for don but, apparently he was busy. I asked the guy some questions about the bike. I also asked him how I should go about ordering one since don quoted me a price different than what he has posted on the web. I told the guy I want to place an order for one... he started studdering and said you better talk to don, don will call you back.

... should I hold my breath?

On the hawk I bought... still haven't received the replacement seat as of yet or the paperwork. I have a feeling that the stall tactic is to get you passed the point of no return as in passed the return limit date.

This is BS!

This kind of lends support to my theory that they don't have them...Perhaps something happened to them in Cali, I don't know. However, I do know that if you have something for sale and people want to buy it, then you sell it. Seems to me they simply don't have them...Perhaps they are tied up on that freight car Don told a story about

manny · 03-28-2017, 09:57 AM

No call back from Don, once again. I called yesterday twice and spoke with Greg both times, who is some relation to Don. The first time he was out for an hour, and the 2nd time he was on the other line at liie 3pm and i asked Greg to put a note in front of him asking him to call me...nada. Last time he took my order at 8 pm, so something is going on.

But....I found an awesome bike for sale last night, that I have an apt. to see at 5 pm tonight...I have to drive an hour to see it and hopefully the girl honors her word and lets me look at it first. I'll be showing up with cash and doing zero dickering on price...It's that kind of a deal!! I don't even need to test drive it, seriously!!!

Fingers and toes will be crossed all day!!

Ski_rush · 03-28-2017, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manny

No call back from Don, once again. I called yesterday twice and spoke with Greg both times, who is some relation to Don. The first time he was out for an hour, and the 2nd time he was on the other line at liie 3pm and i asked Greg to put a note in front of him asking him to call me...nada. Last time he took my order at 8 pm, so something is going on.

But....I found an awesome bike for sale last night, that I have an apt. to see at 5 pm tonight...I have to drive an hour to see it and hopefully the girl honors her word and lets me look at it first. I'll be showing up with cash and doing zero dickering on price...It's that kind of a deal!! I don't even need to test drive it, seriously!!!

Fingers and toes will be crossed all day!!

Manny, have you ever heard the expression, "He's just not that in to you?"

Forget Don. Move on, He obviously has. Forget him and his stinking bike. You're better than that. He doesn't deserve you or your money! Go buy a different bike. Good luck today with the one you're looking at. I hope you buy it.

03-11-2017, 10:32 AM	#3
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Enforcer17 and ski_rush are the two members around here who just bought them and assembled them. Look over their threads on assembly and what not. It took longer than 'an hour'. Don seems to be a decent dealer, provided you have some mechanical knowledge, and patience (shipping times seems to be an issue with some dealers, including his, as of late), but for quite a while, his reputation was impeccable. He was the dealer of dealers. Then, he started making promises that couldn't be kept to some members. It seemed odd, a fluke, maybe the members were like those same people 10 years ago who bought Chinese bikes for $1k and expected the quality and ability to be beaten up like a $4k Honda? Then, it kept happening, mostly with promises of shipping and actual shipping times, and no communication as to what is REALLY going on. No, I don't mean to beat up on him, but just from all the negative posts regarding ASPCUSA the past year. Obviously, there are happy purchasers, including our two Enforcer guinea pigs, ski_rush and Enforcer17, so it isn't all gloom and doom with ASPCUSA, either. But even with them, they couldn't get a green one, as they were told something about a train and a warehouse back in California, and found out the engine was not a counter-balanced one as Don admitted he had not seen an Enforcer in person (thus these two purchasers were really and truly guinea pigs). All that being said, I am sure your purchase for an Enforcer will go fine. He does seem to have good service with certain products, and the Enforcer is one of them. The two members who bought one, and the rest of us, can help you assemble your bike, and don't be surprised if it takes you a few days. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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03-11-2017, 11:33 AM	#4
Ski_rush Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 449	Assembly of the Enforcer takes more than an hour. But, I really took my time to do it right and enjoy the process. I used thread locker on everything that I could and should. I also used grease on the axle bolt. I could have assembled it an hour, but why rush it? After I was done I wanted to do it again. You have to mount the handle bar, throttle grip, front brake lever to the handle bar, and instrument cluster. After that, it gets really easy. Mount up the front fender, headlight, front wheel, etc. It's really very simple. The only wiring is plugging in the headlight. The hard thing is that there are no instructions and mine came with a lot of these extra metal grommets that I didn't need. So I sat there wondering where they go and why I had them...Then others on here confirmed that their bikes were also shipped with extra hardware too. It went together well and didn't take long. There's also time involved in filling and charging the battery and changing the oil and brake fluid. On a side note, I had no shipping damage and the fit and finish of the bike is impressive... Especially for this price. I'm still planning on posting a build thread; it just takes time to do that... Ironically, about as long as building the bike Last edited by Ski_rush; 03-11-2017 at 01:02 PM.
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03-19-2017, 12:42 AM	#7
hertz9753 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 868	I have a house bike, but it has to sleep in the entry. I remember the time that the stock exhaust was caught laying in the bathroom. I couldn't blame it on the dog because it was to heavy. __________________ 2015 and 3/4 RPS Hawk 250. Most people would call it a 2016 but the MCO didn't.
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03-27-2017, 07:25 PM	#9
hertz9753 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 868	I will sell you a Pretty 1980 Kawasaki KX125. It's street legal because I said it is. __________________ 2015 and 3/4 RPS Hawk 250. Most people would call it a 2016 but the MCO didn't.
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03-11-2017, 10:05 AM	#1
Bruce's Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sudbury ,Ontario Posts: 855	It's people like Don who are ruining the market on these fun little bikes .
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03-11-2017, 10:06 AM	#2
Jaybay33 Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 8	So how much assembly is actually required. I am just curious as I have never dealt with one of these bikes. I just want to know what I am getting into. Is it about the same assembly as the hawk?
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03-11-2017, 10:18 AM	#5
Bruce's Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sudbury ,Ontario Posts: 855	It should be very close to the hawk ,we do not know much about the enforcer yet ,they are very new and I think we have only two assembled so far and that was this past week ,you might look at those threads to see if it's something you might take on .
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03-11-2017, 10:22 AM	#6
Jaybay33 Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 8	ok cool, thanks for you help
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03-27-2017, 06:29 PM	#8
manny Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 119	Well, I am going to TRY and re-order an Enforcer...I have been giving it a lot of thought. There are things I like better about the Brozz, but there are also things i like better on the Enforcer (wheels, tires for one). It seems I can buy the Enforcer for considerably less than the Brozz too, so if i can get Don to call me back I'm going to give er a try...again! Bottom line, I haven't been on a bike other than my ATV's in 25 years or so, so this will be a good place to start I think.
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03-28-2017, 08:32 AM	#12
rwl6935 Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 203	Manny, I've been going back and forth with don via email regarding the enforcer, so yesterday decided to give him a call, one of his employees answered the phone. I asked for don but, apparently he was busy. I asked the guy some questions about the bike. I also asked him how I should go about ordering one since don quoted me a price different than what he has posted on the web. I told the guy I want to place an order for one... he started studdering and said you better talk to don, don will call you back. ... should I hold my breath? On the hawk I bought... still haven't received the replacement seat as of yet or the paperwork. I have a feeling that the stall tactic is to get you passed the point of no return as in passed the return limit date. This is BS!
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03-28-2017, 09:57 AM	#14
manny Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 119	No call back from Don, once again. I called yesterday twice and spoke with Greg both times, who is some relation to Don. The first time he was out for an hour, and the 2nd time he was on the other line at liie 3pm and i asked Greg to put a note in front of him asking him to call me...nada. Last time he took my order at 8 pm, so something is going on. But....I found an awesome bike for sale last night, that I have an apt. to see at 5 pm tonight...I have to drive an hour to see it and hopefully the girl honors her word and lets me look at it first. I'll be showing up with cash and doing zero dickering on price...It's that kind of a deal!! I don't even need to test drive it, seriously!!! Fingers and toes will be crossed all day!!
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