Ride to Wickenburg AZ, the back way

calvarez · 02-11-2021, 11:59 AM

My timeframe is pretty open. I know that doesn't help in nailing down a specific time, but others may have more constraints. For the next two weekends I will be getting our food gardens ready to grow, but after that, no plans. Perhaps first weekend of March? Outside of something weird, the weather is typically great for riding.

Emerikol · 02-15-2021, 08:41 PM

::BUMP:: No word back from MusicTrek. Hope he's ok. If I don't hear something this week, how would everyone feel about making plans to do a ride somewhere other than Wickenburg? I have no idea where yet, but I'm certainly open to any suggestions.

culcune · 09-01-2021, 01:25 AM

With the heat still permeating around here, combined with, surprisingly LOTS of humidity (all of July and August--stormy-like weather) and the past few days quite a large storm thanks to the remnants of Hurricane/Tropical Storm Nora making its way north as far north as Colorado, should we start thinking of the twice done ride? Emerikol has moved away, and I have not seen Music Trek on here for a while (he started the ride in the first place), but is anyone else interested in a ride when the weather gets cooler; say November? I have actually found a Chinese bike on Riders Share rentals--a Bashan Storm, in the Phoenix area, and I would like to reserve it if we can get enough people interested to justify renting it. I was thinking a possibility is to head a bit west and try to get to a part of the Arizona Peace Trail which crosses I 10 somewhere in the middle of nowhere in La Paz County, as well as crosses the 60 not too far north. The issue I see is riding Chinese dual-sports for miles on, say the 60, to get to the trail. We could look into a couple of other rides, or if we can remember the route, Surprise to Wickenburg. I will ask on the Facebook group as well as there were a few Phoenix-area riders interested in meeting up for rides over the past several months and were pleasantly surprised when I mentioned the Surprise to Wickenburg route for Chinese dual-sports.

Emerikol · 09-01-2021, 06:08 AM

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Emerikol · 09-01-2021, 06:10 AM

Culcune, Here's a bike you might be interested in. I could pick it up here in GA, get it running, and then ship it off to you. As much as I would like to do this ride again, I'm afraid I'm going to have to tap out. I don't have the ability to leave everything here long enough to ride out there, do the ride, and then ride back. They were certainly fun rides, though!

culcune · 09-01-2021, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Emerikol

Culcune, Here's a bike you might be interested in. I could pick it up here in GA, get it running, and then ship it off to you. As much as I would like to do this ride again, I'm afraid I'm going to have to tap out. I don't have the ability to leave everything here long enough to ride out there, do the ride, and then ride back. They were certainly fun rides, though!

Thanks for the tip! I am in a perpetual wait and see mode, however, but did find a Bashan Storm on the peer-to-peer rental group for about $50 to $70 for a one-day rental, which would be definitely keeping in spirit of a Chinariders group ride. In fact, IF things start getting back to normal this fall, I might invest in a Lifan X-Pect to rent out to snowbirds here in Yuma, and possibly even get into offroad bikes and quads (i.e. Kayo, Pitster/GPX, or Orion). I want to see if there is enough business and if these bikes will hold up to abuse from renters to justify keeping them around to rent out.

Rentals is what revived my interest in the two-year annual S to W ride. I had thought about it months ago before I found the bike, but with Musictrek not active and you moved away, I thought the ride was dead. But, when looking on Turo for a rental car for Chicago last month, I happened upon Riders Share and another company, and found the dual-sport there. Then I put two and two together. Even if I cannot put together a group ride, I will probably rent the bike one of these weeks as I have yet to ride any of the Bashan bikes. How is everything going in Georgia? It must have been nice to get back to 'home' vs. the impersonal Phoenix metropolitan area. You are not the only one I have heard of badmouthing and/or moving away from there. Funny enough, I am really looking into going back to L.A., but that is another story for another time.

Emerikol · 09-04-2021, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by culcune

Thanks for the tip! I am in a perpetual wait and see mode, however, but did find a Bashan Storm on the peer-to-peer rental group for about $50 to $70 for a one-day rental, which would be definitely keeping in spirit of a Chinariders group ride. In fact, IF things start getting back to normal this fall, I might invest in a Lifan X-Pect to rent out to snowbirds here in Yuma, and possibly even get into offroad bikes and quads (i.e. Kayo, Pitster/GPX, or Orion). I want to see if there is enough business and if these bikes will hold up to abuse from renters to justify keeping them around to rent out.

Rentals is what revived my interest in the two-year annual S to W ride. I had thought about it months ago before I found the bike, but with Musictrek not active and you moved away, I thought the ride was dead. But, when looking on Turo for a rental car for Chicago last month, I happened upon Riders Share and another company, and found the dual-sport there. Then I put two and two together. Even if I cannot put together a group ride, I will probably rent the bike one of these weeks as I have yet to ride any of the Bashan bikes. How is everything going in Georgia? It must have been nice to get back to 'home' vs. the impersonal Phoenix metropolitan area. You are not the only one I have heard of badmouthing and/or moving away from there. Funny enough, I am really looking into going back to L.A., but that is another story for another time.

Right off the bat, I'm going to tell you the liability with back-country rentals in the desert is going to be a major obstacle. Let me lay out a scenario with you, and just show how quickly things might go wrong.

Let's say you rent someone a dual sport motorcycle for a day trip somewhere.

Situation 1) they lay it down in the sugar sand and get hurt. They weren't prepared for the trip in the first place, and don't have any water or equipment with them, and no cell signal or they're too seriously injured to even use the cell phone. On top of that, they're hopelessly lost, and couldn't even tell the rescue teams where they are. When they finally do the recovery, who do you think the family is going to come after? It's going to be your fault because you rented a motorcycle to someone who was a complete burke, and you should have known better than to rent to someone with that little experience, blah, blah, blah, insert long drawn out attorney's notices here. Doesn't end well for you...

Situation 2) they take the bike and it breaks down on the trail somewhere. They're not hurt, just stranded. Luckily for you though, they were riding with some friends. So they just push the POS China bike off onto the side of the trail and leave it there for you, and ride back dutch with their buddies. Now when they get back, they demand a full refund because you rented them a broken down basket case of a China bike, and it was such an inconvenience being stuck on the trail instead of riding (more like abusing your equipment) with their friends. And, oh yeah, don't forget you have to go out on the trail to get your bike back, and hope that you can find it or that it's even still there.

All things being equal, the fastest way to make a small fortune in that type of rental arena is to start with a large fortune. I really think trying to break into a niche rental market like that in the Phoenix area is going to a lesson in legal terms and how overall terrible people can be.

culcune · 09-01-2021, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Emerikol

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...Anull%7D%22%7D

Hey, it's a Honda!!

superduder · 09-05-2021, 01:19 PM

Oh, are yall talking about doing this again?
Since Ive been daily-ing Whitey (icebear champion)
I think he should be reliable enough this time around.
Just need to know a week or so before hand,
Then I'm in.
J

culcune · 09-05-2021, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by superduder

Oh, are yall talking about doing this again?
Since Ive been daily-ing Whitey (icebear champion)
I think he should be reliable enough this time around.
Just need to know a week or so before hand,
Then I'm in.
J

I would like to try to get this thing going again.

02-11-2021, 11:59 AM	#1
calvarez Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 334	My timeframe is pretty open. I know that doesn't help in nailing down a specific time, but others may have more constraints. For the next two weekends I will be getting our food gardens ready to grow, but after that, no plans. Perhaps first weekend of March? Outside of something weird, the weather is typically great for riding. __________________ 2016 RX3 2002 Honda CBR1100XX
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02-15-2021, 08:41 PM	#2
Emerikol Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Carrollton, GA Posts: 1,465	::BUMP:: No word back from MusicTrek. Hope he's ok. If I don't hear something this week, how would everyone feel about making plans to do a ride somewhere other than Wickenburg? I have no idea where yet, but I'm certainly open to any suggestions. __________________ First Rule of Aviation: -Never Pass Up The Opportunity to Pee I was struggling to get my wife's attention; I sat down on the couch and looked comfortable. That did the trick! My wife says I only have two faults. I don't listen and something else... If at first you don't succeed, try doing it the way I told you to... The Stable: 2005 Yamaha V-Star 650 - SOLD 2015 Suzuki DR 650 2015 RPS Hawk 250 - SOLD 2016 Ural Gear Up
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09-01-2021, 01:25 AM	#3
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	With the heat still permeating around here, combined with, surprisingly LOTS of humidity (all of July and August--stormy-like weather) and the past few days quite a large storm thanks to the remnants of Hurricane/Tropical Storm Nora making its way north as far north as Colorado, should we start thinking of the twice done ride? Emerikol has moved away, and I have not seen Music Trek on here for a while (he started the ride in the first place), but is anyone else interested in a ride when the weather gets cooler; say November? I have actually found a Chinese bike on Riders Share rentals--a Bashan Storm, in the Phoenix area, and I would like to reserve it if we can get enough people interested to justify renting it. I was thinking a possibility is to head a bit west and try to get to a part of the Arizona Peace Trail which crosses I 10 somewhere in the middle of nowhere in La Paz County, as well as crosses the 60 not too far north. The issue I see is riding Chinese dual-sports for miles on, say the 60, to get to the trail. We could look into a couple of other rides, or if we can remember the route, Surprise to Wickenburg. I will ask on the Facebook group as well as there were a few Phoenix-area riders interested in meeting up for rides over the past several months and were pleasantly surprised when I mentioned the Surprise to Wickenburg route for Chinese dual-sports. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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09-01-2021, 06:08 AM	#4
Emerikol Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Carrollton, GA Posts: 1,465	https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...Anull%7D%22%7D __________________ First Rule of Aviation: -Never Pass Up The Opportunity to Pee I was struggling to get my wife's attention; I sat down on the couch and looked comfortable. That did the trick! My wife says I only have two faults. I don't listen and something else... If at first you don't succeed, try doing it the way I told you to... The Stable: 2005 Yamaha V-Star 650 - SOLD 2015 Suzuki DR 650 2015 RPS Hawk 250 - SOLD 2016 Ural Gear Up
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09-01-2021, 06:10 AM	#5
Emerikol Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Carrollton, GA Posts: 1,465	Culcune, Here's a bike you might be interested in. I could pick it up here in GA, get it running, and then ship it off to you. As much as I would like to do this ride again, I'm afraid I'm going to have to tap out. I don't have the ability to leave everything here long enough to ride out there, do the ride, and then ride back. They were certainly fun rides, though! __________________ First Rule of Aviation: -Never Pass Up The Opportunity to Pee I was struggling to get my wife's attention; I sat down on the couch and looked comfortable. That did the trick! My wife says I only have two faults. I don't listen and something else... If at first you don't succeed, try doing it the way I told you to... The Stable: 2005 Yamaha V-Star 650 - SOLD 2015 Suzuki DR 650 2015 RPS Hawk 250 - SOLD 2016 Ural Gear Up
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09-05-2021, 01:19 PM	#9
superduder Join Date: May 2017 Location: Tucson Posts: 49	Oh, are yall talking about doing this again? Since Ive been daily-ing Whitey (icebear champion) I think he should be reliable enough this time around. Just need to know a week or so before hand, Then I'm in. J
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