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Old 05-14-2016, 09:54 PM   #1
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my mod plans(hawk 250cc)

Hawk 250 $1397

Already done:
Tusk Fender Tube Pack with Tire Irons $17.99
Shinko 244 Front tire $35.88
Kenda Tuff Tube front $19.99
Shinko 244 Rear tire $48.99
Kenda Tuff Tube Rear $19.99
LED turn signal$8.99 I did the back only so far.
Exhaust wrap$20.09
MJSTEF cluster $95
Seat protector$14.99
LED headlight $14.99
New spark plug $9.13
20w50 synthetic oil
LL552 blinker module $6.99
RK O-ring chain $65.09
17T front sprocket $9.46
Hand Guards $25.99
Shift lever $22.24
Lithium battery $90.86
Exhaust system $124.99
Small Magnetic tank bag $25.00
Mikuni Carb $38
Uni Air Filter$28.63

Already bought:
USB Port and Voltage display $18.95

Bought but not ideal:
extended shift lever $21.95 This fits but isn't much longer than the stock lever.

Do not buy:
cell phone holder $12.95 This broke after ~10 uses.

Total so far:
$2172.18
- random rocky mountain price change rebate and RM cash.

Planned:


Does anyone make adjustable shocks that will fit the hawk?



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Old 05-14-2016, 10:51 PM   #2
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Already done:
cell phone holder
New spark plug
20w50 synthetic oil

Already bought:
Lithium battery
RK O-ring chain
17T front sprocket
Hand Guards

Planned:
Mikuni carb
Replace stock airbox with uni filter


Does anyone make adjustable shocks that will fit the hawk?
What about exhausts, Is there anything bolt on?

Tell me about your Lithium battery????


 
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:55 PM   #3
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someone on here posted that this is a perfect fit for the stock battery.

http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender.../dp/B00F9LPJ8S

less than 2 pounds so should be a pretty good weight savings. Not cheap but besides the exhaust probably the biggest weight savings I am going to find in a single component.


 
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Old 05-14-2016, 11:50 PM   #4
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someone on here posted that this is a perfect fit for the stock battery.

http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender.../dp/B00F9LPJ8S

less than 2 pounds so should be a pretty good weight savings. Not cheap but besides the exhaust probably the biggest weight savings I am going to find in a single component.

Seems to be a lot burning up. Kinda worries me... https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....mL._SL256_.jpg


 
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Old 05-14-2016, 11:50 PM   #5
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http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender...owViewpoints=0


 
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:21 AM   #6
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I think it's due to 'overcharging' on most motorcycles*... if you find a way to keep the volts from 'spiking' (?going over 14.x volts?) I'm sure those Lithium Ion batteries will work just fine once the charging system is 'fixed'.

*I have seen the same thing happen when people put those Lithium Ion batteries on a normal battery charger, they overcharge and melt them is my thinking
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Old 05-15-2016, 03:33 PM   #7
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I think it's due to 'overcharging' on most motorcycles*... if you find a way to keep the volts from 'spiking' (?going over 14.x volts?) I'm sure those Lithium Ion batteries will work just fine once the charging system is 'fixed'.

*I have seen the same thing happen when people put those Lithium Ion batteries on a normal battery charger, they overcharge and melt them is my thinking
You are probably correct. Maybe I will see how dirty the stator is/how good the rectifier is. I work with electronics so I could easily build something to clean it up and regulate it better.


 
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Old 05-15-2016, 03:43 PM   #8
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Ended up putting this in today......
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Old 05-15-2016, 11:01 PM   #9
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I think it's due to 'overcharging' on most motorcycles*... if you find a way to keep the volts from 'spiking' (?going over 14.x volts?) I'm sure those Lithium Ion batteries will work just fine once the charging system is 'fixed'.

*I have seen the same thing happen when people put those Lithium Ion batteries on a normal battery charger, they overcharge and melt them is my thinking
As Ed McMahon would say , you are correct sir (warning old fart content)

I have one of those 12 volt USB plugs which displays ambient temp (Celsius ),USB amp draw, and system voltage. Upon high speed rides (55mph haha), it regularly displays 14.x vdc. Not good for lithium.
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Old 05-15-2016, 11:05 PM   #10
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AGM (gel cell) supposed to be superior for rough conditions
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Old 05-15-2016, 11:13 PM   #11
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As Ed McMahon would say , you are correct sir (warning old fart content)

I have one of those 12 volt USB plugs which displays ambient temp (Celsius ),USB amp draw, and system voltage. Upon high speed rides (55mph haha), it regularly displays 14.x vdc. Not good for lithium.
Yup! Saw 14.6 on mine today!


 
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Old 05-16-2016, 12:24 AM   #12
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AH refers to the storage capacity. I think you are referring to CA or cranking amps
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Old 05-16-2016, 12:27 AM   #13
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typically, capacity and cranking amps go hand in hand. AGM can put out a bit more than flooded because of the matting between plates keeping them from warping, but, not a whole lot more.


 
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I bought one of those usb plugs that has a voltage display. If I see 14.6 I will build something to limit it.


 
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typically, capacity and cranking amps go hand in hand. AGM can put out a bit more than flooded because of the matting between plates keeping them from warping, but, not a whole lot more.
Yes haven't seen AH expressed on 12 vdc automotive bat, usually shows CCA (cold crank amps) as the main indicator of what you are buying.
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