Hawk locking up

Lit Hawk · 01-30-2018, 06:47 PM

So I’m stuck at work idk what’s wrong with my bike. When I start it I can hear something rattling inside. It started with my chain becoming really loose when I was leaving work. So I came back really slow and it kept locked no up on me in first even in neutral if I roll it a bit it’ll lock up. Almost like whatever’s rattling around is freezing something up for a bit. Any help is much appreciated.

timcosby · 01-31-2018, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lit Hawk

So I’m stuck at work idk what’s wrong with my bike. When I start it I can hear something rattling inside. It started with my chain becoming really loose when I was leaving work. So I came back really slow and it kept locked no up on me in first even in neutral if I roll it a bit it’ll lock up. Almost like whatever’s rattling around is freezing something up for a bit. Any help is much appreciated.

does it lock up with the clutch pulled in?

rjmorel · 01-31-2018, 12:33 AM

I've had a gravel rock get thrown up in chain and sprocket or behind foot brake and lock things up. Look for simple things first. rj

Lit Hawk · 01-31-2018, 01:10 AM

It’s definitely in the engine, I’m guessing something to do with clutch. Not sure though, I’m gonna dig in tomorrow hopefully and it does sound like somethings broke or loose just rattling around.

Lit Hawk · 01-31-2018, 01:12 AM

Yeah it would lock up with the clutch pulled in. I would have to rock it a couple times and it would eventually start rolling.

**JerryHawk250** · 01-31-2018, 09:22 AM

Have you pulled the chain cover to see if the chain is binding or hitting the motor housing? As rjmorel stated , it could be a rock jammed in there.

Sullybiker · 01-31-2018, 10:39 AM

Is the clutch cable tension okay? Does it make the noise in neutral with the clutch pulled?

If the controls seem sound it's possible something may have broken in the clutch, possibly a spring or a disk.

If you think that's the case, you'll need to drain the oil and pull the side cover, but try and rule out everything simple first.

Weldangrind · 01-31-2018, 10:41 AM

On that note, I'm gonna trim the end of the dipstick off, since I only use the sight glass anyway.

pistolclass · 01-31-2018, 01:30 PM

Are you missing a watch or socket? Friend was telling me a story about a missing socket prior to a jet engine test. They had to disassemble the engine prior to the test. Now all their tools have rf tags on them.

Lit Hawk · 01-31-2018, 06:23 PM

I’m absolutely sure I didn’t drop anything in the engine. So it just drained my oil and this tooth came out not sure what it goes too. So what y’all think it’s from? What side of the engine should I open up? Do you thinkit would be ok to drive like this? It seemed to want to run fine it’s just this tooth was locking something up.

Lit Hawk · 01-31-2018, 06:41 PM

Damn just pulled 3 more teeth out of oil drain hole.

Megadan · 01-31-2018, 06:54 PM

You could ride it like that, but be prepared for potential catastrophe if that gear sheds more teeth. I would personally put the bike down and start taking it apart until you identify where those teeth came from. Luckily even the transmission gear sets are pretty cheap for these engines, so it shouldn't cost too much to fix. Just time.

Edit. If your bike is still under an engine warranty you might consider contacting the dealer you bought it from.

Weldangrind · 02-01-2018, 10:06 AM

Perhaps you'll get luck and find that it is a clutch basket tooth. Even so, I'd split the cases to ensure that it's cleaned out.

ben2go · 02-01-2018, 09:04 PM

Pull the right side engine cover and inspect the clutch basket and drive gears from the crankshaft to the clutch. I have a feeling it's in there. Have you been dumping the clutch and riding wheelies? That will kill them pretty quick sometimes.

Lit Hawk · 02-01-2018, 10:24 PM

I inspected the right side tonight and sadly no teeth broken. It’s deeper, not sure what I’m gonna do. Parts covered under warranty but I think I’m gonna have to pay labor. No wheelies but I did notice the clutch acting a little funny a couple days before. Sucks, I wanna open it myself but not really confident. @#$&!!

01-30-2018, 06:47 PM	#1
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	Hawk locking up So I’m stuck at work idk what’s wrong with my bike. When I start it I can hear something rattling inside. It started with my chain becoming really loose when I was leaving work. So I came back really slow and it kept locked no up on me in first even in neutral if I roll it a bit it’ll lock up. Almost like whatever’s rattling around is freezing something up for a bit. Any help is much appreciated.
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01-31-2018, 12:33 AM	#3
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01-31-2018, 09:22 AM	#6
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01-31-2018, 10:41 AM	#8
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	On that note, I'm gonna trim the end of the dipstick off, since I only use the sight glass anyway. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-31-2018, 06:54 PM	#12
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,001	You could ride it like that, but be prepared for potential catastrophe if that gear sheds more teeth. I would personally put the bike down and start taking it apart until you identify where those teeth came from. Luckily even the transmission gear sets are pretty cheap for these engines, so it shouldn't cost too much to fix. Just time. Edit. If your bike is still under an engine warranty you might consider contacting the dealer you bought it from. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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01-31-2018, 01:10 AM	#4
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	It’s definitely in the engine, I’m guessing something to do with clutch. Not sure though, I’m gonna dig in tomorrow hopefully and it does sound like somethings broke or loose just rattling around.
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01-31-2018, 01:12 AM	#5
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	Yeah it would lock up with the clutch pulled in. I would have to rock it a couple times and it would eventually start rolling.
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01-31-2018, 10:39 AM	#7
Sullybiker Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Western PA Posts: 363	Is the clutch cable tension okay? Does it make the noise in neutral with the clutch pulled? If the controls seem sound it's possible something may have broken in the clutch, possibly a spring or a disk. If you think that's the case, you'll need to drain the oil and pull the side cover, but try and rule out everything simple first.
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01-31-2018, 01:30 PM	#9
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	Are you missing a watch or socket? Friend was telling me a story about a missing socket prior to a jet engine test. They had to disassemble the engine prior to the test. Now all their tools have rf tags on them.
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01-31-2018, 06:41 PM	#11
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	Damn just pulled 3 more teeth out of oil drain hole.
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02-01-2018, 10:06 AM	#13
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Perhaps you'll get luck and find that it is a clutch basket tooth. Even so, I'd split the cases to ensure that it's cleaned out. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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02-01-2018, 09:04 PM	#14
ben2go Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,335	Pull the right side engine cover and inspect the clutch basket and drive gears from the crankshaft to the clutch. I have a feeling it's in there. Have you been dumping the clutch and riding wheelies? That will kill them pretty quick sometimes.
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02-01-2018, 10:24 PM	#15
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	I inspected the right side tonight and sadly no teeth broken. It’s deeper, not sure what I’m gonna do. Parts covered under warranty but I think I’m gonna have to pay labor. No wheelies but I did notice the clutch acting a little funny a couple days before. Sucks, I wanna open it myself but not really confident. @#$&!!
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