Why no Honda Trail 110 clones? - Page 2

Adjuster · 01-15-2015, 04:52 PM

Yep thats exactly what I purchased from Ebay and internet seller PCC Motor. My new motor has QIYE stamped on the side like where other motors say HONDA or LIFAN stamped in the side of the case. I have no idea how to say it or what it means. I think I will Google it.

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Adjuster · 01-15-2015, 04:57 PM

There is no neutral. It is a centrifugal clutch. The motor is always in gear. When you increase the rpms the clutch starts to spread out by the centrifugal force and engages the motor and the bike goes. The well known drawback to this is you have to remember yourself and make sure no one looking at the bike ever tries to rev the engine when its on its kickstand. It will shoot off like a rocket and crash. You can only rev the engine with the rear wheel off the ground or sitting on the bike holding the brake.

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Adjuster · 01-15-2015, 05:00 PM

LOL I really like your ride Barnone. Your passenger is having a better time than you are.

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Adjuster · 01-15-2015, 05:06 PM

I Googled QIYE. It appears to be a pretty popular engine most notably with SSR and Coolster.

Do any of you guys have any experience with this brand/manufacturer?

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jjn · 01-15-2015, 05:40 PM

Here is a forum on the Trail 90 and CT110 (105cc I believe on the later), and a thread on top speeds.

http://hondatrailcts.yuku.com/topic/...1#.VLgohjCJOuY

There's a number of these folks getting close to, or a bit over 50 mph.

Mine had a lever to change it internally from street gear to trail gear. It would hit around 30 or so in trail gear as I recall. The older ones had the dual rear sprockets, which were quick change, and a slick setup also.

Adjuster · 01-15-2015, 05:44 PM

jjn are you familiar with this website? Some great info.

http://www.carlsalter.com/honda-c90.html

http://www.carlsalter.com/

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Adjuster · 01-15-2015, 05:47 PM

http://www.carlsalter.com/Honda-C50-...intanance.html

SpudRider · 01-15-2015, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Adjuster

Very similar to my in progress project Honda Cub Chinese clone.

edit reduced pic size

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You did a nice job.

Did you start a thread on this project? If so, please do post a link to the thread. If not, please do start a new thread, if you have the time.

jjn · 01-15-2015, 06:06 PM

Thanks, adjuster. No, I was not aware of those websites.

Adjuster · 01-15-2015, 06:45 PM

Well now I am frustrated. I have three different intake pipes and I cant make any of them work with the configuration I want.

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Adjuster · 01-15-2015, 06:58 PM

This one is adjustable. I hope it works. Now I have to wait for China delivery. I love you China but I wish you were where Mexico or Canada is located, maybe even Hawaii. LOL

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181170706022

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Weldangrind · 01-16-2015, 01:47 PM

I hope that intake does it for you. It's cool that it has a full inch ID.

Nice work on the Cub.

jjn · 01-16-2015, 03:26 PM

Here is a guy that has the same bike as adjuster has, and did a few interesting mods:

http://imgur.com/a/17yXI

And, here is his youtube video riding it stock:

The owner said this bike tops out around 40-45 mph, and he he about 175 pounds and over 6 feet tall. He mentioned he is getting about 95 mpg.

Adjuster · 01-16-2015, 04:34 PM

I've been thinking about a top mounted fuel tank for mine as well. Not quite like his. My current fuel tank hangs under the frame, I want one that sits at the same angle but on top of the frame. I have already been doing some Ebay searching but nothing yet.

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Adjuster · 01-16-2015, 08:25 PM

I was in Harbor Freight today killing time and I checked out all the Predator engines. A brand new 300cc engine can be had for around $200.00. That got me thinking. I am sure there is a logical reason I have just never been made aware of but why are there no full size street or dirt bikes that use these types of engines? I know there used in some mini bikes and of course go karts but why not full size bikes. Briggs & Stratton, Tucumseh and the Chinese Predators etc are available everywhere and very affordable, easily repaired, all kinds of aftermarket performance etc.

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01-15-2015, 05:40 PM	#20
jjn Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 206	Here is a forum on the Trail 90 and CT110 (105cc I believe on the later), and a thread on top speeds. http://hondatrailcts.yuku.com/topic/...1#.VLgohjCJOuY There's a number of these folks getting close to, or a bit over 50 mph. Mine had a lever to change it internally from street gear to trail gear. It would hit around 30 or so in trail gear as I recall. The older ones had the dual rear sprockets, which were quick change, and a slick setup also. __________________ Jon, in Keaau, Hawaii
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01-15-2015, 06:06 PM	#24
jjn Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 206	Thanks, adjuster. No, I was not aware of those websites. __________________ Jon, in Keaau, Hawaii
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01-16-2015, 01:47 PM	#27
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I hope that intake does it for you. It's cool that it has a full inch ID. Nice work on the Cub. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-16-2015, 03:26 PM	#28
jjn Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 206	Here is a guy that has the same bike as adjuster has, and did a few interesting mods: http://imgur.com/a/17yXI And, here is his youtube video riding it stock: The owner said this bike tops out around 40-45 mph, and he he about 175 pounds and over 6 feet tall. He mentioned he is getting about 95 mpg. __________________ Jon, in Keaau, Hawaii
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01-15-2015, 04:52 PM	#16
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	Yep thats exactly what I purchased from Ebay and internet seller PCC Motor. My new motor has QIYE stamped on the side like where other motors say HONDA or LIFAN stamped in the side of the case. I have no idea how to say it or what it means. I think I will Google it. /
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01-15-2015, 04:57 PM	#17
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	There is no neutral. It is a centrifugal clutch. The motor is always in gear. When you increase the rpms the clutch starts to spread out by the centrifugal force and engages the motor and the bike goes. The well known drawback to this is you have to remember yourself and make sure no one looking at the bike ever tries to rev the engine when its on its kickstand. It will shoot off like a rocket and crash. You can only rev the engine with the rear wheel off the ground or sitting on the bike holding the brake. /
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01-15-2015, 05:00 PM	#18
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	LOL I really like your ride Barnone. Your passenger is having a better time than you are. /
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01-15-2015, 05:06 PM	#19
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	I Googled QIYE. It appears to be a pretty popular engine most notably with SSR and Coolster. Do any of you guys have any experience with this brand/manufacturer? /
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01-15-2015, 05:44 PM	#21
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	jjn are you familiar with this website? Some great info. http://www.carlsalter.com/honda-c90.html http://www.carlsalter.com/ /
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01-15-2015, 05:47 PM	#22
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	http://www.carlsalter.com/Honda-C50-...intanance.html
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01-15-2015, 06:45 PM	#25
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	Well now I am frustrated. I have three different intake pipes and I cant make any of them work with the configuration I want. /
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01-15-2015, 06:58 PM	#26
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	This one is adjustable. I hope it works. Now I have to wait for China delivery. I love you China but I wish you were where Mexico or Canada is located, maybe even Hawaii. LOL http://www.ebay.com/itm/181170706022 /
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01-16-2015, 04:34 PM	#29
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	I've been thinking about a top mounted fuel tank for mine as well. Not quite like his. My current fuel tank hangs under the frame, I want one that sits at the same angle but on top of the frame. I have already been doing some Ebay searching but nothing yet. /
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01-16-2015, 08:25 PM	#30
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	I was in Harbor Freight today killing time and I checked out all the Predator engines. A brand new 300cc engine can be had for around $200.00. That got me thinking. I am sure there is a logical reason I have just never been made aware of but why are there no full size street or dirt bikes that use these types of engines? I know there used in some mini bikes and of course go karts but why not full size bikes. Briggs & Stratton, Tucumseh and the Chinese Predators etc are available everywhere and very affordable, easily repaired, all kinds of aftermarket performance etc. / /
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