Apollo 250 out, New 2019 blue CSC TT250 ordered.

Irishjew · 05-07-2019, 08:07 PM

Sold my Apollo over the weekend and lasted exactly two days before going through withdrawals. I just couldn't get the Apollos rear suspension set up the way I wanted it without some frame modifications. The Apollo ran great and its new owner seemed happy with the purchase as he plans to put it on the back of his RV for tooling around.

I live in Nevadafornia and its not as easy to register all of the offroad branded hawks and magicians. The TBR 7 was just too new for me to gamble on and the BMS 250cc CRP that was available locally has disappeared from the Nevada turbopowersports website. I though long and hard about it and even went to look at a brand new 2018 CRF250l Rally that was on sale for 3895 plus fees. The problem with the crf250L rally was that the dealership had a bait and switch scam going with over $1500 in additional fees plus tax.

I actually called CSC and they actually answer their phones, they keep stock on actual replacement parts, and just seemed to be genuinely nice people. Hopefully the quality of this bike is good. I am super excited about its impending delivery. I am going to take lots of pictures and a video when it arrives.

dpl096 · 05-07-2019, 08:32 PM

You will find that the crew Steve Seidner has assembled at CSC is top shelf. There is really no one else in the CB market like them. Quality product, reasonable pricing and real customer service sums them up nicely

Megadan · 05-07-2019, 09:45 PM

You will be quite happy with the TT250. CSC is a pretty great company to work with, and probably the best in the Chinese motorcycle world in N. America. They were super helpful to me when I was ordering parts and had a mix up and I don't even own a CSC motorcycle.

NzBrakelathes · 05-07-2019, 10:56 PM

I think the old story " you get what you pay for" applies.
Paying more should give you more and CSC demonstrates that.

Seems most all other cheaper bike seller people have issues etc but they paid less so logically they get less but maybe expect more then they actually paid for.

elkhunter338 · 05-07-2019, 11:07 PM

Mine is running good @ 280 miles, CSC has been great to deal with, Would I purchase the tt250 again, YES. It's not the perfect bike but nothing is. You should be pleased with your purchase.

Megadan · 05-08-2019, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NzBrakelathes

I think the old story " you get what you pay for" applies.
Paying more should give you more and CSC demonstrates that.

Seems most all other cheaper bike seller people have issues etc but they paid less so logically they get less but maybe expect more then they actually paid for.

That is exactly it, you pay more to get more. I bought a Hawk knowing the support would be non-existent, but also knowing I had the ability to take care of things myself.

NzBrakelathes · 05-08-2019, 01:58 AM

China doesn’t make a great bike for a low price
It does make a low price bike that could be great in ones own opinion

China isn’t the Slave to the USA and they’re making sure they sent
They intend to be your master / look hard at things and the culture and you’ll see what I mean.

Their down fall so far is their own lazy attitude and non willingness to change
If you could only know all the experience I’ve had! Simple shit kept very difficult

wedooit · 05-08-2019, 08:51 AM

Congrats on your purchase! I also look at csc. The service and support is important. I have written that the guys in the masters knowledge class on this site, could charge for their knowledge services and have extra income. If you have some time, do some write up on your purchase! Take care and stay safe!

Wild Dog · 05-08-2019, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NzBrakelathes

China doesn’t make a great bike for a low price
It does make a low price bike that could be great in ones own opinion

China isn’t the Slave to the USA and they’re making sure they sent
They intend to be your master / look hard at things and the culture and you’ll see what I mean.

Their down fall so far is their own lazy attitude and non willingness to change
If you could only know all the experience I’ve had! Simple shit kept very difficult

Well they are great bike for the tag price. China can make great things for a very low price. Like Norinco Firearms, garden tools, etc.
But let's be honest you can make them so cheap, because the Chinese government is forcing low wage to their workers and forcing a hive mind just like the russians.

2LZ · 05-08-2019, 01:10 PM

I think for the money, the Chinese are providing a great value for the buck spent. What I find atrocious is how much the Japanese are charging for their bikes. Purely market driven. Much of the motorcycle world is inflated by "I gotta have the newest, latest, best" mentality. Lots of image involved. Obviously, we as China riders don't care about image much. ;-)

culcune · 05-08-2019, 01:34 PM

CSC is literally a store/on- line store vs. most budget mail-order stores. I would equate them to a reputable big brand dealership that happens to mail-order.

BitcoinDood · 05-08-2019, 02:06 PM

I love my TT250 and customer service with CSC is fantastic. They've always answered my questions, were super helpful, and I've never had a problem ordering parts. With 4500 miles on the bike since last spring, I've had no serious issues.

Wild Dog · 05-08-2019, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2LZ

What I find atrocious is how much the Japanese are charging for their bikes. Purely market driven. Much of the motorcycle world is inflated by "I gotta have the newest, latest, best" mentality.

Here is a good example of what you say:
In Argentina with around 2500 dollars you can buy these motorcycles:

A)Yamaha XTZ 125, 9.8 HP assembledin Brazil with chinese and thailand parts. MSRP 2680

B)Honda XR190 L FI, It's use the cb190r engine, assembled in Argentina, again with chinese and thailand pars. About 18 HP MSRP 2650

C)"Corven 250 TXR" Chinese on/off with a water cooled 250cc engine. I don't know if it's a yamaha clone or a Kawasaki clone, not honda for sure. About 20 HP. MSRP 2050

The japanese know that people will pay anything for something stamped with their brand.

NzBrakelathes · 05-08-2019, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild Dog

Here is a good example of what you say:
In Argentina with around 2500 dollars you can buy these motorcycles:

A)Yamaha XTZ 125, 9.8 HP assembledin Brazil with chinese and thailand parts. MSRP 2680

B)Honda XR190 L FI, It's use the cb190r engine, assembled in Argentina, again with chinese and thailand pars. About 18 HP MSRP 2650

C)"Corven 250 TXR" Chinese on/off with a water cooled 250cc engine. I don't know if it's a yamaha clone or a Kawasaki clone, not honda for sure. About 20 HP. MSRP 2050

I think the Chinese clone is an adapted water cooled engine from the Air cooled CB250 - I can't see the photos but that is a semi common engine here or it is a NC250 that is now very common

NzBrakelathes · 05-08-2019, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild Dog

Well they are great bike for the tag price. China can make great things for a very low price. Like Norinco Firearms, garden tools, etc.
But let's be honest you can make them so cheap, because the Chinese government is forcing low wage to their workers and forcing a hive mind just like the russians.

It is so they can drain the west of the capital for them selfs - Hence Mr T has it right.

05-07-2019, 08:07 PM	#1
Irishjew Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 104	Apollo 250 out, New 2019 blue CSC TT250 ordered. Sold my Apollo over the weekend and lasted exactly two days before going through withdrawals. I just couldn't get the Apollos rear suspension set up the way I wanted it without some frame modifications. The Apollo ran great and its new owner seemed happy with the purchase as he plans to put it on the back of his RV for tooling around. I live in Nevadafornia and its not as easy to register all of the offroad branded hawks and magicians. The TBR 7 was just too new for me to gamble on and the BMS 250cc CRP that was available locally has disappeared from the Nevada turbopowersports website. I though long and hard about it and even went to look at a brand new 2018 CRF250l Rally that was on sale for 3895 plus fees. The problem with the crf250L rally was that the dealership had a bait and switch scam going with over $1500 in additional fees plus tax. I actually called CSC and they actually answer their phones, they keep stock on actual replacement parts, and just seemed to be genuinely nice people. Hopefully the quality of this bike is good. I am super excited about its impending delivery. I am going to take lots of pictures and a video when it arrives. __________________ 2021 Tao Tao Rhino Last edited by Irishjew; 05-07-2019 at 10:23 PM. Reason: I really need to start proofreading.
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05-07-2019, 08:32 PM	#2
dpl096 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: East Central Hellinois Posts: 1,344	You will find that the crew Steve Seidner has assembled at CSC is top shelf. There is really no one else in the CB market like them. Quality product, reasonable pricing and real customer service sums them up nicely __________________ ************************************************ * " Time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted." - John Lennon “I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” ― Thomas Jefferson "If you don't know where you're going any road will take you there" ....George Harrison song
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05-07-2019, 09:45 PM	#3
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,986	You will be quite happy with the TT250. CSC is a pretty great company to work with, and probably the best in the Chinese motorcycle world in N. America. They were super helpful to me when I was ordering parts and had a mix up and I don't even own a CSC motorcycle. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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05-08-2019, 08:51 AM	#8
wedooit Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 794	Congrats on your purchase! I also look at csc. The service and support is important. I have written that the guys in the masters knowledge class on this site, could charge for their knowledge services and have extra income. If you have some time, do some write up on your purchase! Take care and stay safe! __________________ A family that works together, plays together, shoots and trains together, and sleds together, stays together. Second amendment! SkiDoo sleds, NOW 2 TTR225, and a BMS250. A couple of quotes (we are not farmers) "I don't get off the farm much" "Am too old school" I call the china bikes "the china syndrome".
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05-08-2019, 01:10 PM	#10
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,080	I think for the money, the Chinese are providing a great value for the buck spent. What I find atrocious is how much the Japanese are charging for their bikes. Purely market driven. Much of the motorcycle world is inflated by "I gotta have the newest, latest, best" mentality. Lots of image involved. Obviously, we as China riders don't care about image much. ;-) __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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05-07-2019, 10:56 PM	#4
NzBrakelathes Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hell Posts: 2,408	I think the old story " you get what you pay for" applies. Paying more should give you more and CSC demonstrates that. Seems most all other cheaper bike seller people have issues etc but they paid less so logically they get less but maybe expect more then they actually paid for.
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05-07-2019, 11:07 PM	#5
elkhunter338 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Oregon Posts: 81	Mine is running good @ 280 miles, CSC has been great to deal with, Would I purchase the tt250 again, YES. It's not the perfect bike but nothing is. You should be pleased with your purchase.
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05-08-2019, 01:58 AM	#7
NzBrakelathes Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hell Posts: 2,408	China doesn’t make a great bike for a low price It does make a low price bike that could be great in ones own opinion China isn’t the Slave to the USA and they’re making sure they sent They intend to be your master / look hard at things and the culture and you’ll see what I mean. Their down fall so far is their own lazy attitude and non willingness to change If you could only know all the experience I’ve had! Simple shit kept very difficult
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05-08-2019, 01:34 PM	#11
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	CSC is literally a store/on- line store vs. most budget mail-order stores. I would equate them to a reputable big brand dealership that happens to mail-order. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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05-08-2019, 02:06 PM	#12
BitcoinDood Join Date: May 2018 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 86	I love my TT250 and customer service with CSC is fantastic. They've always answered my questions, were super helpful, and I've never had a problem ordering parts. With 4500 miles on the bike since last spring, I've had no serious issues. __________________ 2018 CSC TT 250 Suzuki DR 650 2003 Honda Shadow 750 (sold and I miss it)
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