First oil change, filter cover stuck...

vttrailboss · 03-01-2017, 03:27 PM

After hitting 100 miles it's time to change the oil. I pulled the drain plug (very tight!), and strainer covers (tight too). Problem is, the filter cover is stuck. I'm not one to start digging between the case/cover... is there a trick to it?

fjmartin · 03-01-2017, 07:32 PM

The filter cover is held in place by 2 nuts. 8mm I believe. Studs are attached to the engine and it's simply just removing the two nuts. Behind the cover is a spring which puts pressure on the filter to push it's o-ring seal into place. I'm amazed that they are that tight. I'm not sure of all the tricks for removing stuck items like that but maybe heating the nuts up or some penetrating oil?

vttrailboss · 03-01-2017, 07:45 PM

Thanks fjmartin,

I removed the two nuts, but the cover is in there pretty good. I see (tutorial) that there's an o-ring in there. I'm guessing it's pretty snug being new. I was looking to see if anyone had a trick that worked for them on their first oil change.

I'm guessing a plastic wedge, or possibly channel locks griping the sides to walk it out (not a fan of that, but any port in a storm ;-) )

bogieboy · 03-01-2017, 07:46 PM

i would try tapping the edge of the cover with a rubber mallet. when you heat a rubber o ring and have it compressed, it can stick pretty tight... i see it all the time on john deere tractors... its worse if the o ring doesnt have lube on it when installed... usually a tap with a rubber mallet to the side of the cover will do the trick...

Inroads · 03-02-2017, 08:35 AM

Light tap from the side with a drift,I agree.
Remember then the drain plug magnet attaches to top of filter and
Pull it out.
Also don't be too freaked out with fair amount of mushy metal on your magnet with the 1st change.

vttrailboss · 03-06-2017, 05:20 AM

Came off with a little persuasive action from a drift...

Now I have to find the right size oil filter... the KN I is to big. :( no one seems to know of a suitable substitute (local)

Inroads · 03-06-2017, 06:50 AM

1st oil change at 100 miles I would just reuse filter and change next time.
It really is not necessary to replace filter with every oil change especially
If you change frequently.
I replace every other oil change.

dpl096 · 03-06-2017, 10:25 AM

I agree with inroads ... check it good for any failures and then invest in some CSC filters or a few reusable filters.... I use the re-usable one and love it.

https://world.tmall.com/item/5209080...714.0.0.KKdmQb

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-...1-bebc73878154

fjmartin · 03-06-2017, 02:15 PM

Inroads, I like the idea of reusing the paper filters if they can be so can you clarify what you mean by changing your oil frequently? I change mine every 2K or 2.5K miles. Would you reuse a filter with that info? Thanks much!

Sullybiker · 03-06-2017, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by vttrailboss

After hitting 100 miles it's time to change the oil. I pulled the drain plug (very tight!), and strainer covers (tight too). Problem is, the filter cover is stuck. I'm not one to start digging between the case/cover... is there a trick to it?

Haha, I think they're pretty zealous at the factory; my TT250 has a lot of tight bolts too. The drain plug took some surprising effort.

jbfla · 03-06-2017, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpl096

I agree with inroads ... check it good for any failures and then invest in some CSC filters or a few reusable filters.... I use the re-usable one and love it.

https://world.tmall.com/item/5209080...714.0.0.KKdmQb

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-...1-bebc73878154

After the shiny particles stopped showing up in the paper filters, I switched to the re-usable mesh filter.

Due to a mix up in a Tao Bao order, I have 4 extra mesh filters should anyone want one. $15 US shipped to continental US address.

jb

vttrailboss · 03-06-2017, 05:58 PM

Jb, how are you cleaning those?

dpl096 · 03-06-2017, 08:55 PM

I spray mine clean with WD40 then low pressure air.....
JB I had the same thing happen to me...ended up with a double order.....

jbfla · 03-06-2017, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vttrailboss

Jb, how are you cleaning those?

Like Doug said, spray with WD40.

jb

fjmartin · 03-06-2017, 09:15 PM

JB, I'll send you a PM. I'll take one of the filter.

03-01-2017, 03:27 PM	#1
vttrailboss Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Vermont Posts: 62	First oil change, filter cover stuck... After hitting 100 miles it's time to change the oil. I pulled the drain plug (very tight!), and strainer covers (tight too). Problem is, the filter cover is stuck. I'm not one to start digging between the case/cover... is there a trick to it? __________________ Newest machine: 2020... Oldest: 1916'ish
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03-01-2017, 07:32 PM	#2
fjmartin Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Redmond, WA. Posts: 534	The filter cover is held in place by 2 nuts. 8mm I believe. Studs are attached to the engine and it's simply just removing the two nuts. Behind the cover is a spring which puts pressure on the filter to push it's o-ring seal into place. I'm amazed that they are that tight. I'm not sure of all the tricks for removing stuck items like that but maybe heating the nuts up or some penetrating oil? __________________ 2017 BMW F800GS Adventure
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03-01-2017, 07:45 PM	#3
vttrailboss Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Vermont Posts: 62	Thanks fjmartin, I removed the two nuts, but the cover is in there pretty good. I see (tutorial) that there's an o-ring in there. I'm guessing it's pretty snug being new. I was looking to see if anyone had a trick that worked for them on their first oil change. I'm guessing a plastic wedge, or possibly channel locks griping the sides to walk it out (not a fan of that, but any port in a storm ;-) ) __________________ Newest machine: 2020... Oldest: 1916'ish
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03-06-2017, 05:20 AM	#6
vttrailboss Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Vermont Posts: 62	Came off with a little persuasive action from a drift... Now I have to find the right size oil filter... the KN I is to big. :( no one seems to know of a suitable substitute (local) __________________ Newest machine: 2020... Oldest: 1916'ish
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03-06-2017, 10:25 AM	#8
dpl096 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: East Central Hellinois Posts: 1,344	I agree with inroads ... check it good for any failures and then invest in some CSC filters or a few reusable filters.... I use the re-usable one and love it. https://world.tmall.com/item/5209080...714.0.0.KKdmQb https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-...1-bebc73878154 __________________ ************************************************ * " Time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted." - John Lennon “I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” ― Thomas Jefferson "If you don't know where you're going any road will take you there" ....George Harrison song Last edited by dpl096; 03-06-2017 at 11:05 AM.
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03-01-2017, 07:46 PM	#4
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,045	i would try tapping the edge of the cover with a rubber mallet. when you heat a rubber o ring and have it compressed, it can stick pretty tight... i see it all the time on john deere tractors... its worse if the o ring doesnt have lube on it when installed... usually a tap with a rubber mallet to the side of the cover will do the trick...
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03-02-2017, 08:35 AM	#5
Inroads Join Date: May 2015 Location: Wimberley Texas Posts: 193	Light tap from the side with a drift,I agree. Remember then the drain plug magnet attaches to top of filter and Pull it out. Also don't be too freaked out with fair amount of mushy metal on your magnet with the 1st change.
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03-06-2017, 06:50 AM	#7
Inroads Join Date: May 2015 Location: Wimberley Texas Posts: 193	1st oil change at 100 miles I would just reuse filter and change next time. It really is not necessary to replace filter with every oil change especially If you change frequently. I replace every other oil change.
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03-06-2017, 02:15 PM	#9
fjmartin Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Redmond, WA. Posts: 534	Inroads, I like the idea of reusing the paper filters if they can be so can you clarify what you mean by changing your oil frequently? I change mine every 2K or 2.5K miles. Would you reuse a filter with that info? Thanks much! __________________ 2017 BMW F800GS Adventure
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03-06-2017, 05:58 PM	#12
vttrailboss Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Vermont Posts: 62	Jb, how are you cleaning those? __________________ Newest machine: 2020... Oldest: 1916'ish
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03-06-2017, 08:55 PM	#13
dpl096 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: East Central Hellinois Posts: 1,344	I spray mine clean with WD40 then low pressure air..... JB I had the same thing happen to me...ended up with a double order..... __________________ ************************************************ * " Time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted." - John Lennon “I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” ― Thomas Jefferson "If you don't know where you're going any road will take you there" ....George Harrison song
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03-06-2017, 09:15 PM	#15
fjmartin Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Redmond, WA. Posts: 534	JB, I'll send you a PM. I'll take one of the filter. __________________ 2017 BMW F800GS Adventure
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