Just took delivery of my new Venom X22R... - Page 3

Chrisguga · 03-09-2020, 07:52 PM

Yeah, this screws my potential first night getting to ride. I don’t want to put gas in it at this point.

**JerryHawk250** · 03-09-2020, 08:02 PM

Yeah. That kind of puts a damper on it. I'm sure Venom will take care of it.

Chrisguga · 03-10-2020, 12:12 AM

Current situation. I’ll either get a new tank from Venom or have to figure out how to fix this one. This isn’t how I expected my first “brand new” motorcycle purchase to go.

**JerryHawk250** · 03-10-2020, 08:25 AM

Now would be a good time for valve adjustment and oil cooler install. I sure Venom will take care of the tank.

Chrisguga · 03-10-2020, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

Now would be a good time for valve adjustment and oil cooler install. I sure Venom will take care of the tank.

Yes, I’m definitely getting any and all maintenance items completed while I have the plastics and tank off and await a resolution.

I see those caps that have to be removed for the valve adjustment. I bought the feeler gauges, but it looks like I might need the offset ones in order to approach from the top. I’ll know more when I pop those caps off tonight.

**JerryHawk250** · 03-10-2020, 09:35 AM

I used the regular feeler gauge though the angled ones would work better. It's a good time to do the header wrap too.

Chrisguga · 03-10-2020, 10:36 AM

Well, Venom tells me this is normal from test firing the motor and the rust is caused by the residual gas left in the tank.

I’m going to use oxacylic acid and water to clear out the rust and then use one of these gas tank coatings like POR15 to coat it before I reinstall it. I’ll have to figure out how to protect the electrical components in the tank during this process.

This is disappointing, but it is what it is.

**JerryHawk250** · 03-10-2020, 11:04 AM

Hopefully you can clean it out. I would avoid using a tank liner is possible and just clean it with the rust remover. Be ready to use a oil and gas mixture to coat the inside of the tank as soon as you clean it out to prevent flash rust.
Tank liners can fail and cause more issues later on. Tank liners or intended as a last resort for old tanks that have rusted through.

**JerryHawk250** · 03-10-2020, 11:18 AM

I would use Evapo-Rust Remover so you don't get the flash rust. https://www.amazon.com/Evapo-Rust-Or...dp/B00M0TLQ66/

Chrisguga · 03-10-2020, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

Hopefully you can clean it out. I would avoid using a tank liner is possible and just clean it with the rust remover. Be ready to use a oil and gas mixture to coat the inside of the tank as soon as you clean it out to prevent flash rust.
Tank liners can fail and cause more issues later on. Tank liners or intended as a last resort for old tanks that have rusted through.

Man, I need to start listening to my buddy. He gave me the exact same advice on the oil and gas mixture.

Thanks for all of your help, Jerry. I’m still glad I purchased the bike, but was definitely wondering if I should have just financed a new Kawasaki Ninja1000 vs paying cash for this bike when I was out there at 11pm last night cursing the rust.

**JerryHawk250** · 03-10-2020, 11:38 AM

True story from this past weekend. I have a buddy of mine that's a diehard HD rider told me "why you buy that cheap Chinese junk?" I told him. Didn't you just pay $38,000+ for that bike you just bought? How much did it cost you when you had to take it to shop to get repaired two weeks ago? You could here crickets.

It damn near cost him as much as our bikes cost to fix.

Then I told him. Yeah my 3 year old $1100 Hawk never left me on the side of the road either.

Nuff said.

Chrisguga · 03-10-2020, 12:36 PM

I went ahead and ordered the oil cooler and set of valve adjustment tools. I hope like hell I like this bike because I sure have spent a lot on maintenance items and accessories. Well, a lot in relation to the cost of the bike.

It’s still exceptionally cheap compared to boating!

**JerryHawk250** · 03-10-2020, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisguga

It’s still exceptionally cheap compared to boating!

Ain't that the truth. lol

Chrisguga · 03-11-2020, 01:39 AM

So tonight’s progress...

I treated the gas tank with oxacylic acid and water 3 times. This did a nice job of removing the rust. I then swished some 50:1 gas:oil mix that I use in my weed eater and blower to give the tank a light coating of oil. I did this twice and emptied the contents each time.

Here are before and after pics. I used these plugs from a car interior fastener kit to plug the holes in the bottom of the tank.

I had to use the Dremel on some of the plastic to fit one of the mirrors as the plastic was covering the threads. That’s the last pic.

Chrisguga · 03-11-2020, 01:44 AM

Oh yeah, the plugs. I thought it was a good idea and it worked well.

I also installed my NGK plug and changed the oil tonight. I decided to go ahead and put the plastics back on so I could ride and get 100 miles on it so when I do the valves and oil cooler, I’m ready for my next oil change. Getting the plastics back on is a bit of a pain, but I’ll be faster with it next time.

Here’s how she sits all buttoned back up.

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JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,551	Now would be a good time for valve adjustment and oil cooler install. I sure Venom will take care of the tank. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,551	I used the regular feeler gauge though the angled ones would work better. It's a good time to do the header wrap too. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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03-10-2020, 11:04 AM	#38
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,551	Hopefully you can clean it out. I would avoid using a tank liner is possible and just clean it with the rust remover. Be ready to use a oil and gas mixture to coat the inside of the tank as soon as you clean it out to prevent flash rust. Tank liners can fail and cause more issues later on. Tank liners or intended as a last resort for old tanks that have rusted through. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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03-10-2020, 11:18 AM	#39
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,551	I would use Evapo-Rust Remover so you don't get the flash rust. https://www.amazon.com/Evapo-Rust-Or...dp/B00M0TLQ66/ __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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03-09-2020, 07:52 PM	#31
Chrisguga Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 187	Yeah, this screws my potential first night getting to ride. I don’t want to put gas in it at this point.
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03-10-2020, 10:36 AM	#37
Chrisguga Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 187	Well, Venom tells me this is normal from test firing the motor and the rust is caused by the residual gas left in the tank. I’m going to use oxacylic acid and water to clear out the rust and then use one of these gas tank coatings like POR15 to coat it before I reinstall it. I’ll have to figure out how to protect the electrical components in the tank during this process. This is disappointing, but it is what it is.
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03-10-2020, 11:38 AM	#41
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,551	True story from this past weekend. I have a buddy of mine that's a diehard HD rider told me "why you buy that cheap Chinese junk?" I told him. Didn't you just pay $38,000+ for that bike you just bought? How much did it cost you when you had to take it to shop to get repaired two weeks ago? You could here crickets. It damn near cost him as much as our bikes cost to fix. Then I told him. Yeah my 3 year old $1100 Hawk never left me on the side of the road either. Nuff said. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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03-10-2020, 12:36 PM	#42
Chrisguga Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 187	I went ahead and ordered the oil cooler and set of valve adjustment tools. I hope like hell I like this bike because I sure have spent a lot on maintenance items and accessories. Well, a lot in relation to the cost of the bike. It’s still exceptionally cheap compared to boating! Last edited by Chrisguga; 03-10-2020 at 01:06 PM.
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