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Krasi_BG · 03-20-2012, 08:14 AM

I'm also with PZ30 and put a 42 slow jet on mine (taken from my GasGas 2-stroke Keihin kit 8)

The local scooter shop sell Polini spare parts (http://www.poliniusa.com/), and they provide all sorts of jets. Check out pages 186-187 of their catalog:

http://free.yudu.com/item/embedded_r...ni?refid=74424

My main jet is very long with something like 12 holes in it, so I ordered this extension with part # 342.0112 so that I can plug whatever main jet I feel like having. Should be here in a week or two...

Superdova · 03-20-2012, 04:07 PM

Ok so I decided I'd check the jet needle and move the c clip up to make it run more rich. Put the parts back together and tried starting the bike. Start ed hard and ran like it was full throttle. real thoatyand a lot of backfireing of the engine when I took it for a ride. Gonna tear back into it tonight and lean it out and try it. new plug was really black after short ride.

FastDoc · 03-20-2012, 04:18 PM

To be honest the plug looks rich BUT you can be rick on the idle circut and/or the needle jet and lean on the main , which would fit your symptoms well.

When you reassembled the carb you may have missed something causing the high speed. Sticking slide or cable would be my first thought. Another possibility is the slide is in backwards, or an air leak. Don't despair you'll get it. Worst case scenario is an inexpensive better new carb, a worthy upgrade in it's own right.

Superdova · 03-20-2012, 04:36 PM

Ok thanks fast doc! I'm going to put the needle jet back to main position then tomorrow I'm see if I can get new jets at the honda stoee if not I'm going to order a mikuni carb... Got a kawasaki dealer in town without having to drive far.
Thank krasi_bg I'll check out the catalog to!

Superdova · 03-20-2012, 04:52 PM

Ok found a brand new 30mm mikuni carb. fits honda xr200cc.sound like the right one?

Superdova · 03-20-2012, 04:57 PM

Btw I meant yamaha shop not kawasaki... My mind is going in different directions lol

Weldangrind · 03-20-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Superdova

Ok so I decided I'd check the jet needle and move the c clip up to make it run more rich.

FYI, moving the clip up leans out the mixture. Moving the clip down causes the needle to lift higher and uncover the main jet, allowing more fuel. That helps to explain the back-firing.

Superdova · 03-20-2012, 08:17 PM

Haha so I had the process backwardslol havent done anything with a carb in a long time and it isnt coming back to me as fast as I'd like lol. And I found out the throttle sticking was sure to the rubber boot on to of the carb....

Weldangrind · 03-20-2012, 08:21 PM

To answer your carb question, I've bought several of these: Carburetor Carb ATV Dirt Bike Quad Honda MIKUNI 30mm They're good quality, cheap, jets are easy to find, cheap, they're well made and they're cheap.

Superdova · 03-20-2012, 08:32 PM

Well made and cheap are usually never put in the same description! Lol but I'll give out a try I ordered one for $38 shipped and I'm sure it won't let me down.

Weldangrind · 03-20-2012, 09:05 PM

You paid $2 less than I did! Arggh!

Don't forget that you'll need to buy fatter jets, once the carb arrives.

SpudRider · 03-21-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

To answer your carb question, I've bought several of these: Carburetor Carb ATV Dirt Bike Quad Honda MIKUNI 30mm They're good quality, cheap, jets are easy to find, cheap, they're well made and they're cheap.

Plus, they're cheap!

As always, thanks for posting the excellent tip, Weld!

Spud

SpudRider · 03-21-2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Superdova

Well made and cheap are usually never put in the same description! Lol but I'll give out a try I ordered one for $38 shipped and I'm sure it won't let me down.

Pleasantly, some of these Chinese products are indeed, well made and inexpensive.

I believe my Zongshen 200GY-2 motorcycle falls into this desirable category.

Spud

Weldangrind · 03-21-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Superdova

Well made and cheap are usually never put in the same description! Lol but I'll give out a try I ordered one for $38 shipped and I'm sure it won't let me down.

In my experience you can pick any two: good, fast, cheap. What these bikes are not is fast.

SpudRider · 03-21-2012, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

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Originally Posted by Superdova

Well made and cheap are usually never put in the same description! Lol but I'll give out a try I ordered one for $38 shipped and I'm sure it won't let me down.

In my experience you can pick any two: good, fast, cheap. What these bikes are not is fast.

That is a very truthful aphorism, Brother Weld.

I can verify, my Zong is not very fast! However, it is very good, and inexpensive.

Spud

03-20-2012, 04:18 PM	#18
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	To be honest the plug looks rich BUT you can be rick on the idle circut and/or the needle jet and lean on the main , which would fit your symptoms well. When you reassembled the carb you may have missed something causing the high speed. Sticking slide or cable would be my first thought. Another possibility is the slide is in backwards, or an air leak. Don't despair you'll get it. Worst case scenario is an inexpensive better new carb, a worthy upgrade in it's own right. __________________ Happy to serve.
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03-20-2012, 08:21 PM	#24
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	To answer your carb question, I've bought several of these: Carburetor Carb ATV Dirt Bike Quad Honda MIKUNI 30mm They're good quality, cheap, jets are easy to find, cheap, they're well made and they're cheap. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-20-2012, 09:05 PM	#26
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	You paid $2 less than I did! Arggh! Don't forget that you'll need to buy fatter jets, once the carb arrives. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-20-2012, 08:14 AM	#16
Krasi_BG Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 436	I'm also with PZ30 and put a 42 slow jet on mine (taken from my GasGas 2-stroke Keihin kit 8) The local scooter shop sell Polini spare parts (http://www.poliniusa.com/), and they provide all sorts of jets. Check out pages 186-187 of their catalog: http://free.yudu.com/item/embedded_r...ni?refid=74424 My main jet is very long with something like 12 holes in it, so I ordered this extension with part # 342.0112 so that I can plug whatever main jet I feel like having. Should be here in a week or two...
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03-20-2012, 04:07 PM	#17
Superdova Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 25	Ok so I decided I'd check the jet needle and move the c clip up to make it run more rich. Put the parts back together and tried starting the bike. Start ed hard and ran like it was full throttle. real thoatyand a lot of backfireing of the engine when I took it for a ride. Gonna tear back into it tonight and lean it out and try it. new plug was really black after short ride.
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03-20-2012, 04:36 PM	#19
Superdova Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 25	Ok thanks fast doc! I'm going to put the needle jet back to main position then tomorrow I'm see if I can get new jets at the honda stoee if not I'm going to order a mikuni carb... Got a kawasaki dealer in town without having to drive far. Thank krasi_bg I'll check out the catalog to!
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03-20-2012, 04:52 PM	#20
Superdova Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 25	Ok found a brand new 30mm mikuni carb. fits honda xr200cc.sound like the right one?
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03-20-2012, 04:57 PM	#21
Superdova Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 25	Btw I meant yamaha shop not kawasaki... My mind is going in different directions lol
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03-20-2012, 08:17 PM	#23
Superdova Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 25	Haha so I had the process backwardslol havent done anything with a carb in a long time and it isnt coming back to me as fast as I'd like lol. And I found out the throttle sticking was sure to the rubber boot on to of the carb....
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03-20-2012, 08:32 PM	#25
Superdova Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 25	Well made and cheap are usually never put in the same description! Lol but I'll give out a try I ordered one for $38 shipped and I'm sure it won't let me down.
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