New member! Help me tell what cc my zongshen motor is???????

Ironmike · 09-24-2017, 09:01 PM

Hi guys. Just picked up a Yamaha blaster with a air cooled zongshen motor. Guy said it's a 250cc. I did some googling to see if it's a 200 or 250 but can't find an answer. Seen this sight so figured I'd join! Here's the motor # zs167fml 86A00082 plz advise. Thx

Sochin · 09-24-2017, 09:46 PM

Might be a 200cc

humanbeing · 09-24-2017, 09:46 PM

L = classed as 200 http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...identification
There's at least 2 Zongshen 200 w/ 67
LY200 (as ZS Sierra which http://www.chinariders.net/member.php?u=25218 had lots experience ) Yamaha clone
CG200-B https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=524015336715 (Most CG200 is 63.5 /15 pin ie. 196cc) Barrel height ~73mm
Anyway CG250 (229cc) 167FMM barrel height ~80mm https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=524002726547

Ironmike · 09-24-2017, 10:05 PM

Thx for quick reply. So it's def a 200cc?

Sochin · 09-24-2017, 10:07 PM

humanbeing lives in China and knows his stuff.

Ironmike · 09-24-2017, 10:12 PM

Wasn't questioning him just didn't quite understand the whole barrel height thing ect

while On the subject . Can you tell me what the correct carb/size is for this motor? Also the intake is metal and angled down a little. Carb sits at a downward angle is this correct?

humanbeing · 09-24-2017, 11:19 PM

Nobody knows the exact model w/o picture. We can guess by shape / engine mount if had pic... Once it's confirmed, it's quite straight forward cuz there's answer(s) in old thread... Barrel height is a simple way to determinate it's a 200 or 250 <the # of fin often are different> w/o complete tearing...
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The model stamped maybe complete fake. Pre-06 warring state period b4 crackdown had dark history. Stamp the legal info on some ghost machine often heard... Anyway Chinese are famous for not play by rules https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_sons is just 1 of it that heard by round eyes...

Ironmike · 09-24-2017, 11:49 PM

Great info thx! I'll take some pics tomorrow after work. Thx again!

Ironmike · 09-25-2017, 07:35 AM

Heres some pics thx !

Ironmike · 09-25-2017, 07:38 AM

More pics

Mudflap · 09-25-2017, 08:18 AM

It's a Honda CG clone, probably 200 cc.

humanbeing · 09-25-2017, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironmike

Heres some pics thx !

Definitely a CG (ohv) family. Displacement often in barrel (as last pic, the side facing starting motor)

Anyway 200 (19?) or 250 (229) carb had minor jet difference ONLY
Most Keihin clone =

Mikuni VM26 (& copies) are good alternative...

Weldangrind · 09-28-2017, 12:29 PM

Welcome!

This is all very familiar... A few years ago, forum member TeamCheap installed a CG motor into an old Blaster and documented the whole deal. Unfortunately, Photobucket has changed their terms and none of the pics show up. There is still a ton of good info to read, though: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=2321

I have a China quad that is essentially a Yamaha Blaster clone with a CG engine, and this is the intake that is used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/27mm-Intake-...%257Ciid%253A1
It drops the carb and moves it back significantly, but it works. I'm running a 30 slow jet and a 110 main at sea level, with the pilot mixture screw out one turn.

Ironmike · 09-28-2017, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Welcome!

This is all very familiar... A few years ago, forum member TeamCheap installed a CG motor into an old Blaster and documented the whole deal. Unfortunately, Photobucket has changed their terms and none of the pics show up. There is still a ton of good info to read, though: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=2321

I have a China quad that is essentially a Yamaha Blaster clone with a CG engine, and this is the intake that is used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/27mm-Intake-...%257Ciid%253A1
It drops the carb and moves it back significantly, but it works. I'm running a 30 slow jet and a 110 main at sea level, with the pilot mixture screw out one turn.

Thx for the link. Just got done reading. A lot of good info! I'm still getting used to reading the # pages in reverse lol. I ordered the intake that another member posted in this thread. If that doesn't work I'll look into the s type intake.

Ironmike · 09-28-2017, 06:11 PM

Thought I would post this info I came across while researching my motor cc. Not sure if it's been posted here before but here it is.

Standard Chinese motorcycle engine identification.

Example LF163FML-2M

First letter or two indicate the manufacturer. These may be omitted. LF = Lifan, ZS - Zongshen, etc..

First digit indicates the number of cylinders. 1 in the example above.

Next 2 digits indicate the bore in millimeters. 63 in the example above.

Next letter indicates cooling method. F=air cooled, M=water cooled.

Next letter indicates use. M=motorcycle

Next letter indicates displacement. J=150cc, K=175cc, L=200cc, M=250cc,

Any letters after the dash indicate model version. In the example above the 2M is the engine equipped with a balance shaft.

The 142cc engine in my little bike is 1P55FMJ-2E10 so it's a single cylinder, horizontal (P), 55mm bore, air cooled, motorcycle engine, 150cc class, model 2E10.

The 200cc engine is the Roketa is 167FML so it's a single cylinder, 67mm bore, air cooled, motorcycle engine, 200cc class.

09-24-2017, 09:01 PM	#1
Ironmike Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: NY Posts: 81	New member! Help me tell what cc my zongshen motor is??????? Hi guys. Just picked up a Yamaha blaster with a air cooled zongshen motor. Guy said it's a 250cc. I did some googling to see if it's a 200 or 250 but can't find an answer. Seen this sight so figured I'd join! Here's the motor # zs167fml 86A00082 plz advise. Thx
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09-24-2017, 09:46 PM	#2
Sochin Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Montucky Posts: 209	Might be a 200cc __________________ 1991 Kawasaki KLR250
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09-24-2017, 09:46 PM	#3
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	L = classed as 200 http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...identification There's at least 2 Zongshen 200 w/ 67 LY200 (as ZS Sierra which http://www.chinariders.net/member.php?u=25218 had lots experience ) Yamaha clone CG200-B https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=524015336715 (Most CG200 is 63.5 /15 pin ie. 196cc) Barrel height ~73mm Anyway CG250 (229cc) 167FMM barrel height ~80mm https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=524002726547 __________________
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09-24-2017, 10:07 PM	#5
Sochin Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Montucky Posts: 209	humanbeing lives in China and knows his stuff. __________________ 1991 Kawasaki KLR250
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09-24-2017, 11:19 PM	#7
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	Nobody knows the exact model w/o picture. We can guess by shape / engine mount if had pic... Once it's confirmed, it's quite straight forward cuz there's answer(s) in old thread... Barrel height is a simple way to determinate it's a 200 or 250 <the # of fin often are different> w/o complete tearing... === The model stamped maybe complete fake. Pre-06 warring state period b4 crackdown had dark history. Stamp the legal info on some ghost machine often heard... Anyway Chinese are famous for not play by rules https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_sons is just 1 of it that heard by round eyes... __________________
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09-24-2017, 10:05 PM	#4
Ironmike Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: NY Posts: 81	Thx for quick reply. So it's def a 200cc?
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09-24-2017, 10:12 PM	#6
Ironmike Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: NY Posts: 81	Wasn't questioning him just didn't quite understand the whole barrel height thing ect while On the subject . Can you tell me what the correct carb/size is for this motor? Also the intake is metal and angled down a little. Carb sits at a downward angle is this correct?
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09-24-2017, 11:49 PM	#8
Ironmike Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: NY Posts: 81	Great info thx! I'll take some pics tomorrow after work. Thx again!
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09-25-2017, 08:18 AM	#11
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,870	It's a Honda CG clone, probably 200 cc.
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09-28-2017, 12:29 PM	#13
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Welcome! This is all very familiar... A few years ago, forum member TeamCheap installed a CG motor into an old Blaster and documented the whole deal. Unfortunately, Photobucket has changed their terms and none of the pics show up. There is still a ton of good info to read, though: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=2321 I have a China quad that is essentially a Yamaha Blaster clone with a CG engine, and this is the intake that is used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/27mm-Intake-...%257Ciid%253A1 It drops the carb and moves it back significantly, but it works. I'm running a 30 slow jet and a 110 main at sea level, with the pilot mixture screw out one turn. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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09-28-2017, 06:11 PM	#15
Ironmike Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: NY Posts: 81	Good info ! Thought I would post this info I came across while researching my motor cc. Not sure if it's been posted here before but here it is. Standard Chinese motorcycle engine identification. Example LF163FML-2M First letter or two indicate the manufacturer. These may be omitted. LF = Lifan, ZS - Zongshen, etc.. First digit indicates the number of cylinders. 1 in the example above. Next 2 digits indicate the bore in millimeters. 63 in the example above. Next letter indicates cooling method. F=air cooled, M=water cooled. Next letter indicates use. M=motorcycle Next letter indicates displacement. J=150cc, K=175cc, L=200cc, M=250cc, Any letters after the dash indicate model version. In the example above the 2M is the engine equipped with a balance shaft. The 142cc engine in my little bike is 1P55FMJ-2E10 so it's a single cylinder, horizontal (P), 55mm bore, air cooled, motorcycle engine, 150cc class, model 2E10. The 200cc engine is the Roketa is 167FML so it's a single cylinder, 67mm bore, air cooled, motorcycle engine, 200cc class.
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