ordered '20 Brozz, got '18

mtiberio · 04-21-2020, 06:24 PM

TX-ass powersports has ripped me off. I sent them an email, no response, so I started a dispute with the CC company. That may get their attention. The '18 Brozz doesn't have the USD forks, the rear disk brake nor the luggage rack. I can see some positives in this. The conventional forks are lighter, there is a rubber pad which acts as a rack, so that is superfulous, and I'll never have to replace pads or rebuild hydraulics with the rear drum. As much as I wanted the '20, the '18 will probably do.

How much of a refund should I demand from them? $250? $350?

herbie · 04-21-2020, 06:39 PM

The standard 2018 Brozz sold for about $1595 delivered, if I remember correctly.

alex_in_az · 04-21-2020, 07:12 PM

that's some shady bullshit IMHO

**JerryHawk250** · 04-21-2020, 07:15 PM

Brozz250.com is the only dealer that can sell you a 2020.

Beast250 · 04-21-2020, 07:53 PM

Im still waiting to see how my experience goes. Bike's in transit, im trying to keep my expectations in the right place. I know there may be some dings or normal shipping rubs. But I fear Im going through the same experience as other members - with display units being shipped, etc.

cycleway4 · 04-21-2020, 07:57 PM

How long ago did you get this? I have only been checking their site here recently,...but I've never seen a Brozz offered. In fact (as Jerry says), I have only ever seen the Brozz listed, at Peace Sports/Brozz250.com

herbie · 04-21-2020, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cycleway4

How long ago did you get this? I have only been checking their site here recently,...but I've never seen a Brozz offered. In fact (as Jerry says), I have only ever seen the Brozz listed, at Peace Sports/Brozz250.com

There is a couple of dealers selling the Brozz, they are priced at $1999, where as peace sports sells them for $1950

mtiberio · 04-21-2020, 09:12 PM

It arrived today

2LZ · 04-22-2020, 12:25 AM

It's just Manny. His history is well documented here. TXP and all his related businesses should be avoided at all cost. He owns a ton of them now.
The only truly reputable business....to date....is CSC. Even Don has had his ups and downs. I know there are others that are hit and miss. (SPS, PSM, etc..)...and that's been the normal China Rider experience....but Manny is a charlatan.
We've had members here who have been completely torched by that ass.

cycleway4 · 04-22-2020, 06:29 AM

"The only truly reputable business....to date....is CSC"

Definitely need to add Peace Sports/Jeff/Brozz250.com to that recommendation....
I don't think you could do better anywhere else, of course, my opinion....

bogieboy · 04-22-2020, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cycleway4

How long ago did you get this? I have only been checking their site here recently,...but I've never seen a Brozz offered. In fact (as Jerry says), I have only ever seen the Brozz listed, at Peace Sports/Brozz250.com

i just looked, and its not in the linup but if you search brozz thru google, ou will come across this link...

https://www.txpowersports.com/new-20...-brozz-250.htm

**JerryHawk250** · 04-22-2020, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bogieboy

i just looked, and its not in the linup but if you search brozz thru google, ou will come across this link...

https://www.txpowersports.com/new-20...-brozz-250.htm

That's strange. Can't find it even if you search on there website. But there it is.

bogieboy · 04-22-2020, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

That's strange. Can't find it even if you search on there website. But there it is.

precisely... another depth to the shady-ness... google "brozz" and theres the links for the 18 and the 20, right in line, results from google are as follows: 1. Brozz250.com 2. Superiorpowersports.com 3. peacesports.com 4 the 2020 txp link, 5. 2018 txp link....

but you cant search the site to find them...

mtiberio · 04-22-2020, 03:55 PM

Got a $200 refund. I'm calling it good and licking my wounds. Lesson learned. Got bike running this afternoon.

kingofqueenz · 04-23-2020, 12:27 PM

Man it is scary how hit and miss this is.

I ordered my TBR7 from TXP and guess I consider myself lucky it was uneventful.

The MCO, Bill of Sale, Receipt all had different names, different company names, it drove the NY DMV nuts... but I got 'er done.

Thanks lucky rabbits foot.

04-21-2020, 06:24 PM	#1
mtiberio Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 258	ordered '20 Brozz, got '18 TX-ass powersports has ripped me off. I sent them an email, no response, so I started a dispute with the CC company. That may get their attention. The '18 Brozz doesn't have the USD forks, the rear disk brake nor the luggage rack. I can see some positives in this. The conventional forks are lighter, there is a rubber pad which acts as a rack, so that is superfulous, and I'll never have to replace pads or rebuild hydraulics with the rear drum. As much as I wanted the '20, the '18 will probably do. How much of a refund should I demand from them? $250? $350? __________________ 4 time WERA SuperVintage Roadracing National Champion, SCTA Land Speed Record Holder, 3rd AMA Motorcycle GP of Miami
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04-21-2020, 07:57 PM	#6
cycleway4 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 269	How long ago did you get this? I have only been checking their site here recently,...but I've never seen a Brozz offered. In fact (as Jerry says), I have only ever seen the Brozz listed, at Peace Sports/Brozz250.com __________________ <div>Steve 2006 Roketa DB-07A/RSX-200E 2008 Roketa 250 Scooter 2019 Brozz 250
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04-21-2020, 07:53 PM	#5
Beast250 Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 35	Im still waiting to see how my experience goes. Bike's in transit, im trying to keep my expectations in the right place. I know there may be some dings or normal shipping rubs. But I fear Im going through the same experience as other members - with display units being shipped, etc.
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04-21-2020, 09:12 PM	#8
mtiberio Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 258	It arrived today __________________ 4 time WERA SuperVintage Roadracing National Champion, SCTA Land Speed Record Holder, 3rd AMA Motorcycle GP of Miami
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04-22-2020, 12:25 AM	#9
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,080	It's just Manny. His history is well documented here. TXP and all his related businesses should be avoided at all cost. He owns a ton of them now. The only truly reputable business....to date....is CSC. Even Don has had his ups and downs. I know there are others that are hit and miss. (SPS, PSM, etc..)...and that's been the normal China Rider experience....but Manny is a charlatan. We've had members here who have been completely torched by that ass. __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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04-22-2020, 06:29 AM	#10
cycleway4 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 269	"The only truly reputable business....to date....is CSC" Definitely need to add Peace Sports/Jeff/Brozz250.com to that recommendation.... I don't think you could do better anywhere else, of course, my opinion.... __________________ <div>Steve 2006 Roketa DB-07A/RSX-200E 2008 Roketa 250 Scooter 2019 Brozz 250 Last edited by cycleway4; 04-22-2020 at 10:43 AM.
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04-22-2020, 03:55 PM	#14
mtiberio Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 258	Got a $200 refund. I'm calling it good and licking my wounds. Lesson learned. Got bike running this afternoon. __________________ 4 time WERA SuperVintage Roadracing National Champion, SCTA Land Speed Record Holder, 3rd AMA Motorcycle GP of Miami
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04-23-2020, 12:27 PM	#15
kingofqueenz Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Strong Island New Yawk Posts: 464	Man it is scary how hit and miss this is. I ordered my TBR7 from TXP and guess I consider myself lucky it was uneventful. The MCO, Bill of Sale, Receipt all had different names, different company names, it drove the NY DMV nuts... but I got 'er done. Thanks lucky rabbits foot.
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