Chinese 450

[Sport Rider]

This would supposedly cost me $4,580 delivered to me. There's a few things in the description that the person sent to me that would need clarified compared to the picture.

first, the bore/stroke is about 223. if it's a zong twin, then that would be a 450. Their description says 1 cylinder.

The picture with the offer does not appear to show a water cooled motor. I'd have to confirm what this bike actually looks like.

The pic appears to show lights and license bracket. It would likely not be registerable, but would want them to clarify.

What's your thoughts?

Engine Zongshen NC 450 water-cooled ,1- cylinder,4-srtoke
Displacement 450cc
Appearance color white and red
Max power(kw/r/min) 12kw/7500(r/min)
Max Torque(N.m/r/min) 18N.m/5500(r/mim)
Bore and stroke(mm×mm) 65.5×62.2
Min Fuel Consumption(g/Kw.h) ≤354
Compression ratio 9.25:1
Clutch method Manual Wet Multi-Plate
L×W×H(mm) 2160*802*1270mm
Net weight(kg) 118kg
Wheelbase(mm) 81460mm
Sitting height(mm) 960mm
Minimum distance from the ground(mm) 320mm
Wheel specifications Font 1.6×21 /rear2.15×19
Tire specifications Front 80/100-21 rear 100/90-19
Fuel consumption Economic fuel consumption(L/100km):2.0-2.5
Fuel tank(L) 6.5L
Transmission system 5 speed international gear, hand clutch, chain drive
Control system Front and rear hydraulic disk brakes
Ignition method CDI
Directional device Aluminum compression steering wheel
Starting method Electric foot starting

[TominMO]

Sketchy. Don't fall for stuff. And who does wheelbase and seat height in mm? Weird.

That thing on the rear fender looks more like an LED turn signal, not license plate; and no signals on front.

Looks like an LC motor with no radiator(?!). Unless those are twin mini-rads in the gas tank air scoops.

And 12 kw of power is 16.3 hp; 18 NM is 13.3 ft lb. Rear tire 100/90-19?

Conclusion: this is total scam BS.

[wheelbender6]

No signals, so it is a dirt bike with lights. Looks like fun, though.

[Falkon45]

They do have an nc450. It has two small radiators, just like my SSR. It looks like a kayo bike, labeled as something else. I'd just look at SSR or Kayo.

[TominMO]

Originally Posted by Falkon45

They do have an nc450. It has two small radiators, just like my SSR. It looks like a kayo bike, labeled as something else. I'd just look at SSR or Kayo.

Agreed. Don't bother with crazy low deals, that's how you get bit in the ass.

Their bore and stroke is way off, more like a 200cc, which would be in line with the claimed power. The SSR 450 is 96mm x 62.1mm

[Falkon45]

Hey, SportRider, you happen to have a link?

[Bruces]

It says it has “Aluminum compression steering wheel “and “electric foot starting “ .Awesome !

[TominMO]

Originally Posted by Bruces

It says it has “Aluminum compression steering wheel “and “electric foot starting “. Awesome !

Yeah, this is even worse English than usual.

Actually, looking at the pic again, it does appear to have a front right turn signal. But it is in too close to be DOT-spec. So tires probably not DOT spec either. Nor is the motor EPA spec I'll bet. Positive that this could not be licensed for the road. Maybe OK if you had a big farm to ride it around on, or otherwise strictly offroad. But you might run into import problems too, which would negate the cost savings, and be a major hassle. And with the goofy specs listed, no way I'd bite on this "deal".

[Sport Rider]

here's the link...

https://5a463b7c9fe0df24.en.made-in-...or-Adults.html

[Falkon45]

Ok. Looks like a kayo k4 frame with a nc450 in it. Has a huge gas tank, though.

[TominMO]

Originally Posted by Falkon45

Ok. Looks like a kayo k4 frame with a nc450 in it. Has a huge gas tank, though.

6.5 liters is 6.8 quarts, or about 1.70 gallons. But how can you believe any of the specs listed?

[Sport Rider]

yeah, that's the problem. the information and pictures don't match up. heck, some of the information and the description don't match up. lots of confirmations from the seller would be needed.

the net though is going through a direct-mail type of system does not offer any substantial discount from what these can be bought from dealers here.

it would save me $400 compared to this:
https://wholesaleatv.com/products/ne...SABEgLkmfD_BwE

[Falkon45]

Originally Posted by TominMO

6.5 liters is 6.8 quarts, or about 1.70 gallons. But how can you believe any of the specs listed?

Yeah, I was basing the tank size on the pictures, and not the specs. I didn't even read them over really well, as sometimes the translation from any form of chinese to english is not very well contexed.

Yeah, that EGL is hands down a much better deal, as you know what you'll be getting. Might as well order from a trusted site rather than those guys.