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Old 07-22-2017, 09:35 PM   #1
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Doh! Can't find hawk o ring chain!

Can't find hawk o ring chain!
Does anyone know where I can get a o ring chain for a hawk stock gears? I've been looking around and it seems everyone is out of stock!


 
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Old 07-22-2017, 09:48 PM   #2
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Same here you can get a longer chain and take out a couple links
or got to a locale bearing distributor and pick some up.


 
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Old 07-22-2017, 09:53 PM   #3
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Taiwanese brand http://www.ebay.com/itm/331094628371 Use chain breaker
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:30 PM   #4
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I use this o-ring chain:

http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product/900269983

with rear 42T sprocket (JTR269.42).


 
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Old 07-23-2017, 01:48 PM   #5
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Depending on how much you want to spend. There are still some out there. This is the exact one I used and will work with the stock sprockets without shortening. https://www.amazon.com/EK-Chain-428-.../dp/B004JAUXTK
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:38 PM   #6
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428 o-ring chains and 45 tooth rear sprockets are pretty much all out of stock everywhere. Must be lots of Hawkers modding their bikes
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Old 07-30-2017, 12:02 PM   #7
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I personally like regular chains on my dirt bikes. If you maintain them they aren't bad. Yes, oring chains are easier and last longer, but if you added up all the costs involved, etc,( besides your time) the oring is more expensive per mile of life.


 
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:17 AM   #8
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I personally like regular chains on my dirt bikes. If you maintain them they aren't bad. Yes, oring chains are easier and last longer, but if you added up all the costs involved, etc,( besides your time) the oring is more expensive per mile of life.
Too many variables to make a sweeping statement like that imho. That said, I will agree...to a point.

If a person is good at doing proper chain maintenance, then yes, an O-ring chain will cost more per mile of life (not by much in my own experience). Especially if some prep is done to the chain before being installed, such as a hot wax or grease bath.

O-ring chains are far more forgiving to abuse/neglect over a long period of time, especially of the bike gets exposed to grit and water. That same nature also makes them generally survive longer in bikes that see regular off-road use, even if proper maintenance is followed. A standard chain will capture that grit in places during the ride and start to cause wear, while O ring style chains resist a lot of that. They are also far less prone to stretching as a whole, and often require much less adjusting over time.

My own personal experience with the two makes me go for an O, X, or T ring chain over a standard every time. I am a religious maintenance-o-holic. I immediately re-lube my chain if I even ride on a wet road, and clean and lube them far more often then normal humans do.

What I have found. Properly cared for quality O-ring chains last at least twice as long, sometimes longer, in harsher conditions. Generally, through the same manufacturer, equivalent standard chains are about 30-40% the cost of the O-ring versions. If the standard chains last half as long, then yes the O ring will cost more per mile, but not by enough for me to care. Most manufacturers have even tested their own chains to compare them and state a service life at minimum 2-2.5 times that of their equivalent non O-ring versions, and a couple I have seen stated upwards of 4+. Are they trying to sell their more expensive chains? Maybe, but they also wouldn't state something without evidence to back it up to prevent false advertising lawsuits.
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:38 AM   #9
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I personally like regular chains on my dirt bikes. If you maintain them they aren't bad. Yes, oring chains are easier and last longer, but if you added up all the costs involved, etc,( besides your time) the oring is more expensive per mile of life.
You have a very simplistic way of looking at it...
if the chain lasts longer so do the sprockets
so when you also take the sprocket prise into account as well they are a lot cheaper..
worn chain will take the sprockets out & worn sprockets will take a chain out...



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Old 07-31-2017, 09:44 AM   #10
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Too many variables to make a sweeping statement like that imho. That said, I will agree...to a point.

If a person is good at doing proper chain maintenance, then yes, an O-ring chain will cost more per mile of life (not by much in my own experience). Especially if some prep is done to the chain before being installed, such as a hot wax or grease bath.

O-ring chains are far more forgiving to abuse/neglect over a long period of time, especially of the bike gets exposed to grit and water. That same nature also makes them generally survive longer in bikes that see regular off-road use, even if proper maintenance is followed. A standard chain will capture that grit in places during the ride and start to cause wear, while O ring style chains resist a lot of that. They are also far less prone to stretching as a whole, and often require much less adjusting over time.

My own personal experience with the two makes me go for an O, X, or T ring chain over a standard every time. I am a religious maintenance-o-holic. I immediately re-lube my chain if I even ride on a wet road, and clean and lube them far more often then normal humans do.

What I have found. Properly cared for quality O-ring chains last at least twice as long, sometimes longer, in harsher conditions. Generally, through the same manufacturer, equivalent standard chains are about 30-40% the cost of the O-ring versions. If the standard chains last half as long, then yes the O ring will cost more per mile, but not by enough for me to care. Most manufacturers have even tested their own chains to compare them and state a service life at minimum 2-2.5 times that of their equivalent non O-ring versions, and a couple I have seen stated upwards of 4+. Are they trying to sell their more expensive chains? Maybe, but they also wouldn't state something without evidence to back it up to prevent false advertising lawsuits.
That's why I use wax in preferance to grease when I maintain my chains. Also water has a harder time penetrating the links, using wax. And dust doesn't stick to it like it does grease...ARH


 
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