carrying capacity of Zongshen 200

Mudflap · 01-01-2015, 01:08 PM

I was comparing the owners manual to the manufacturers plates on the bike and noticed the maximum GVW as listed on the plate is 901 lb. That seems like a lot of weight for a small bike, more than my touring bike! Could this be for carrying a half dozen pigs or a family of five? Or is it a mistake?

katoranger · 01-01-2015, 02:20 PM

You must have the half ton.

Mudflap · 01-01-2015, 04:30 PM

SpudRider · 01-01-2015, 04:41 PM

If you become a postman you can haul the mail with it.

mrpete · 01-14-2015, 09:56 AM

He's really carrying a lot of weight on that 200cc. Hopefully, he won't hit any BuMpY side streets!

bogieboy · 01-14-2015, 07:39 PM

the GVWR is factoring in the weight of the bike as well.......even so, that leaves around 6-650# of capacity....

Mudflap · 01-14-2015, 07:51 PM

Here's my Lifan hauling a generator, and a heavy battery charger in the action packer box, along with groceries and other junk. That's one heavy duty rack they put on the Lifan. Rode several miles down the 65 mph freeway on the way back from Harbor Freight in Yuma.

katoranger · 01-14-2015, 07:56 PM

I had about 100lbs of trailer brake parts strapped to the rack of my lifan. Made the front wheel pretty light, but the rack didn't move.

The Chinese know how to build a strong rack.

SpudRider · 01-14-2015, 08:32 PM

Indeed, the Chinese build these bikes tough, with strong subframes.

That's why I am confident the Zongshen RX3 can carry the loads for adventure touring with aplomb.

Mudflap · 01-20-2015, 09:32 AM

I've been looking around to see if I could find what frame this particular Zongshen is a copy of and finally found it, it's a Beta Alp 200. Frame, forks, triple clamp, handlebars, speedo, swing arm, seat, turn signals, rear rack, foot pegs, and more. The Beta uses a Suzuki DR engine where the Roketa (Zongshen) uses a Honda CG clone.

The bikes are a cross between an enduro and a trials bike and have reversible foot pegs which allow you to move them about 6" to the rear for stand up trials riding. Dry weight is is only 223 lbs on the Beta and is listed as 222 lb in the Zongshen owners manual.

Weldangrind · 01-20-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudflap

I've been looking around to see if I could find what frame this particular Zongshen is a copy of and finally found it, it's a Beta Alp 200. Frame, forks, triple clamp, handlebars, speedo, swing arm, seat, turn signals, rear rack, foot pegs, and more. The Beta uses a Suzuki DR engine where the Roketa (Zongshen) uses a Honda CG clone.

The bikes are a cross between an enduro and a trials bike and have reversible foot pegs which allow you to move them about 6" to the rear for stand up trials riding. Dry weight is is only 223 lbs on the Beta and is listed as 222 lb in the Zongshen owners manual.

Interesting!

Are you saying that the frame of the typical Roketa bike (with a CG200) is a copy of a Beta? My Roketa is definitely a copy of a Honda XR200 (early '80's twin shock version, modified for monoshock).

Which bike are you referring to? Do you have comparison pics?

Weldangrind · 01-20-2015, 11:10 AM

Ok, I just went back to your thread about your Roketa, and I see what you mean. Your comments about the low gearing make a lot more sense now.

Did you ever get it registered for the street?

Mudflap · 01-20-2015, 03:35 PM

Yes it's now registered in Oregon. I have the title, plate, tags, etc..

Roketa being just an importer puts their name on lots of different bikes. This particular one is the only copy of a Beta Alp I've seen, and I've never seen a real Alp. If you look close at the frame, forks, swing arm, rack, and most other parts, it's obvious. The aluminum rims are nicer on the Alp.

SpudRider · 01-20-2015, 05:50 PM

Indeed, I see many similarities.

Does the Beta Alp have a kick stand on the right side?

Weldangrind · 01-21-2015, 12:08 AM

Can you do the footpeg, seat and tank cover trick, just like an ALP?

01-01-2015, 01:08 PM	#1
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,870	carrying capacity of Zongshen 200 I was comparing the owners manual to the manufacturers plates on the bike and noticed the maximum GVW as listed on the plate is 901 lb. That seems like a lot of weight for a small bike, more than my touring bike! Could this be for carrying a half dozen pigs or a family of five? Or is it a mistake?
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katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	You must have the half ton. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	If you become a postman you can haul the mail with it. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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01-14-2015, 07:56 PM	#8
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I had about 100lbs of trailer brake parts strapped to the rack of my lifan. Made the front wheel pretty light, but the rack didn't move. The Chinese know how to build a strong rack. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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01-14-2015, 08:32 PM	#9
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Indeed, the Chinese build these bikes tough, with strong subframes. That's why I am confident the Zongshen RX3 can carry the loads for adventure touring with aplomb. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,870
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01-14-2015, 09:56 AM	#5
mrpete Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 22	He's really carrying a lot of weight on that 200cc. Hopefully, he won't hit any BuMpY side streets!
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01-14-2015, 07:39 PM	#6
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,045	the GVWR is factoring in the weight of the bike as well.......even so, that leaves around 6-650# of capacity....
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01-14-2015, 07:51 PM	#7
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,870	Here's my Lifan hauling a generator, and a heavy battery charger in the action packer box, along with groceries and other junk. That's one heavy duty rack they put on the Lifan. Rode several miles down the 65 mph freeway on the way back from Harbor Freight in Yuma.
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01-20-2015, 09:32 AM	#10
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,870	I've been looking around to see if I could find what frame this particular Zongshen is a copy of and finally found it, it's a Beta Alp 200. Frame, forks, triple clamp, handlebars, speedo, swing arm, seat, turn signals, rear rack, foot pegs, and more. The Beta uses a Suzuki DR engine where the Roketa (Zongshen) uses a Honda CG clone. The bikes are a cross between an enduro and a trials bike and have reversible foot pegs which allow you to move them about 6" to the rear for stand up trials riding. Dry weight is is only 223 lbs on the Beta and is listed as 222 lb in the Zongshen owners manual.
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01-20-2015, 11:10 AM	#12
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Ok, I just went back to your thread about your Roketa, and I see what you mean. Your comments about the low gearing make a lot more sense now. Did you ever get it registered for the street? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-20-2015, 03:35 PM	#13
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,870	Yes it's now registered in Oregon. I have the title, plate, tags, etc.. Roketa being just an importer puts their name on lots of different bikes. This particular one is the only copy of a Beta Alp I've seen, and I've never seen a real Alp. If you look close at the frame, forks, swing arm, rack, and most other parts, it's obvious. The aluminum rims are nicer on the Alp.
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01-20-2015, 05:50 PM	#14
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Indeed, I see many similarities. Does the Beta Alp have a kick stand on the right side? __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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01-21-2015, 12:08 AM	#15
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Can you do the footpeg, seat and tank cover trick, just like an ALP? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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