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Megadan · 11-13-2019, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by franque

Maybe you should set up a PayPal to do a Dyno run before and after. I'd be interested in seeing the number difference, and I'd contribute.

The issue really isn't cost. It's availability. I only have one shop within a reasonable distance to me with a dyno, and they have a constant 6-10+ week waiting list and they don't run the dyno in the winter, so it is only open from late March to April through when the temps drop below freezing, which is usually right around this time of the year. Barring some random warm weather where they have a few hour window to work in.

If you want an idea, I actually did call them about dyno time. The earliest I could get my bike in is the end of April. They are already booked out that far due to the early cold spell.

I would love nothing more than to document the changes, but seeing as I would like to actually ride my bike...

Omaha isn't a big enough city where I have tons of options to work with.

Megadan · 11-13-2019, 12:30 PM

I have no doubt that this cam is worth an easy 2hp at the crank on a 200-230cc CG engine with most of the gains being made from 6000rpm and up. The intent of this profile was a bit of a compromise - to get the most power possible without requiring piston or chamber machine work.

They do have other cams with less total duration, more active duration at .050: lift, and a little more valve lift that show better total gains with little to no loss in the mid range. The catch is that they do require either clearancing of the pistons or recessing the valve seats in the head to prevent the valves from colliding with one another. Heck, they have a cam (with a dyno comparison) that improves power between 3500 and 7500 quite dramatically on a CG125 (1.8whp) and another that sees a similar power increase, but stretched across a wider RPM range to over 9000rpm, with no loss in mid range power or torque. If I were wanting to go crazy with a build, I would honestly choose a different profile with the added lift.

I chose this cam due to the simple fact that it is "bolt on" power. Designed to work with stock valve springs, pushrods, etc. Nothing extra required. In the spirit of what I call low investment power adders, or stock "optimization."

OneLeggedRider · 11-13-2019, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franque

Maybe you should set up a PayPal to do a Dyno run before and after. I'd be interested in seeing the number difference, and I'd contribute.

So would I.

Baskt_Case · 12-21-2019, 10:37 PM

Any updates on the cam install?

NzBrakelathes · 12-22-2019, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Baskt_Case

Any updates on the cam install?

Or USD front end?!
Was just thinking about all that lol

Megadan · 12-22-2019, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Baskt_Case

Any updates on the cam install?

Nothing at this point. Too busy at work and with Holiday stuff at the moment.

Megadan · 02-10-2020, 03:13 AM

Update, which isn't really an update. I haven't done any work on any of my bikes at the moment. Nor have I really been around here except for the occasional comment here and there.

Truth is, I have been very burnt out the last few months with everything going on between my job, my personal life, etc. I have been under a large amount of stress for a very long time and it has finally caught up with me. As such I have been just trying to take a step back and keep my life simple for now until I can get myself sorted out straight.

Just bear with me and I will get back to it soon, I promise.

herbie · 02-10-2020, 04:19 AM

I completely understand the stress and the winter time definitely doesn't help anything. It's always nice to be able to go for a long ride and collect your thoughts and destress a little bit, sunshine and warmer days are around the corner. Take care Dan hopefully things will get better for ya soon.

franque · 02-10-2020, 10:10 AM

No worries Dan, take care of yourself!

**JerryHawk250** · 02-10-2020, 10:47 AM

Don't worry Dan. Warm weather is around the corner so you'll be able to get out and ride to relieve some of that stress. I know it helps me. I got a lot of stress relief over the weekend. My mind is in a much better state this morning.

Too bad by knock off time all the stress will be right back.

I need to retire and just ride for a living. lol
Take care Dan.

wedooit · 02-10-2020, 06:12 PM

Hey Dan! Take care....I also have been under severe stress with 2 huge jobs we just completed, heck haven't even rode our sleds yet, and we have had some really good snow!!! I completely understand all....

Megadan · 02-22-2020, 07:30 PM

Well, I did get to do a little de-stress riding today. High was almost 60 and sunny out so I took the Hawk out of mothballs and did a little maintenance on it and my other vehicles, then took it for a light trail and city ride for a couple of hours. My jetting wasn't very optimal for the colder air so I had to get a little creative and zip tie a sock around my pod filter, which did the trick lol.

Full gear, with thermal liners. I have actually lost a little bit of weight over the winter so my stuff fit a little loose.

One of the trails I like to ride along is just sort of a loose gravel and dirt road that runs by a trap shooting range I go to from time to time. I kind of want to build a gun case rack/mount for my bike and make this a normal weekend run.

To answer the question, no I have not done the cam install yet. I want to finish my VFR first before I take this bike apart so I at least have one bike to ride.

Anyway, Have a good rest of the weekend.

**JerryHawk250** · 02-22-2020, 07:38 PM

Glad to see you got to do some riding. Sounds like your weather was like here today. Chilly this morning but did make it to the upper 50's. With the sun out it didn't feel so bad.

Megadan · 02-22-2020, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

Glad to see you got to do some riding. Sounds like your weather was like here today. Chilly this morning but did make it to the upper 50's. With the sun out it didn't feel so bad.

Compared to the weather we have been having, this is was a downright heat wave! The Great Plains/Midwest wild weather swings are pretty spectacular right now as well. In two days we are expecting a light snow and a high in the 20's, then a few days later back to the 50's. The only real issue is the temp swings between day and night. As you said Chilly, and then the warmer high temp peaks in just a narrow 3 or 4 hour window, and then back to cold again. 58 for the high today and 30 for the low. We probably wont see low temps above 40 for another month or so, otherwise I would ride to work.

China Rider 27 · 02-22-2020, 10:09 PM

Good to see Megadan on the trail again! That weather looks great for riding. I've been riding most sunny or cloudy non rainy days I can in the low 40's. I wear long johns under my pants and the liner in my jacket and a scarf around my neck. The fingers get cold but the sound of the engine keeps calling me out!

11-13-2019, 12:30 PM	#227
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,998	I have no doubt that this cam is worth an easy 2hp at the crank on a 200-230cc CG engine with most of the gains being made from 6000rpm and up. The intent of this profile was a bit of a compromise - to get the most power possible without requiring piston or chamber machine work. They do have other cams with less total duration, more active duration at .050: lift, and a little more valve lift that show better total gains with little to no loss in the mid range. The catch is that they do require either clearancing of the pistons or recessing the valve seats in the head to prevent the valves from colliding with one another. Heck, they have a cam (with a dyno comparison) that improves power between 3500 and 7500 quite dramatically on a CG125 (1.8whp) and another that sees a similar power increase, but stretched across a wider RPM range to over 9000rpm, with no loss in mid range power or torque. If I were wanting to go crazy with a build, I would honestly choose a different profile with the added lift. I chose this cam due to the simple fact that it is "bolt on" power. Designed to work with stock valve springs, pushrods, etc. Nothing extra required. In the spirit of what I call low investment power adders, or stock "optimization." __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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12-21-2019, 10:37 PM	#229
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02-10-2020, 03:13 AM	#232
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,998	Update, which isn't really an update. I haven't done any work on any of my bikes at the moment. Nor have I really been around here except for the occasional comment here and there. Truth is, I have been very burnt out the last few months with everything going on between my job, my personal life, etc. I have been under a large amount of stress for a very long time and it has finally caught up with me. As such I have been just trying to take a step back and keep my life simple for now until I can get myself sorted out straight. Just bear with me and I will get back to it soon, I promise. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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02-10-2020, 04:19 AM	#233
herbie Join Date: May 2019 Location: Illinois Posts: 864	I completely understand the stress and the winter time definitely doesn't help anything. It's always nice to be able to go for a long ride and collect your thoughts and destress a little bit, sunshine and warmer days are around the corner. Take care Dan hopefully things will get better for ya soon. __________________ 2022 Venom KPR 200 Red- the fastest color 16t and 46t sprockets, NGK Iridium CPR8EAIX-9, aftermarket full exhaust system. Top speed 81GPS 2023 Venom SS3 KP mini 150– Nibbi carb, Nibbi air filter, aftermarket muffler, decat 2022 Venom Ghost chopper 250 1997 Honda GL1500 Goldwing 1978 Kawasaki KL250 https://youtube.com/@herbiesgarage681
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02-10-2020, 10:47 AM	#235
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,555	Don't worry Dan. Warm weather is around the corner so you'll be able to get out and ride to relieve some of that stress. I know it helps me. I got a lot of stress relief over the weekend. My mind is in a much better state this morning. Too bad by knock off time all the stress will be right back. I need to retire and just ride for a living. lol Take care Dan. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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02-10-2020, 10:10 AM	#234
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	No worries Dan, take care of yourself!
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02-10-2020, 06:12 PM	#236
wedooit Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 794	Hey Dan! Take care....I also have been under severe stress with 2 huge jobs we just completed, heck haven't even rode our sleds yet, and we have had some really good snow!!! I completely understand all.... __________________ A family that works together, plays together, shoots and trains together, and sleds together, stays together. Second amendment! SkiDoo sleds, NOW 2 TTR225, and a BMS250. A couple of quotes (we are not farmers) "I don't get off the farm much" "Am too old school" I call the china bikes "the china syndrome".
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02-22-2020, 07:30 PM	#237
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,998	Well, I did get to do a little de-stress riding today. High was almost 60 and sunny out so I took the Hawk out of mothballs and did a little maintenance on it and my other vehicles, then took it for a light trail and city ride for a couple of hours. My jetting wasn't very optimal for the colder air so I had to get a little creative and zip tie a sock around my pod filter, which did the trick lol. Full gear, with thermal liners. I have actually lost a little bit of weight over the winter so my stuff fit a little loose. One of the trails I like to ride along is just sort of a loose gravel and dirt road that runs by a trap shooting range I go to from time to time. I kind of want to build a gun case rack/mount for my bike and make this a normal weekend run. To answer the question, no I have not done the cam install yet. I want to finish my VFR first before I take this bike apart so I at least have one bike to ride. Anyway, Have a good rest of the weekend. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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02-22-2020, 07:38 PM	#238
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,555	Glad to see you got to do some riding. Sounds like your weather was like here today. Chilly this morning but did make it to the upper 50's. With the sun out it didn't feel so bad. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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02-22-2020, 10:09 PM	#240
China Rider 27 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: PNW Posts: 982	Good to see Megadan on the trail again! That weather looks great for riding. I've been riding most sunny or cloudy non rainy days I can in the low 40's. I wear long johns under my pants and the liner in my jacket and a scarf around my neck. The fingers get cold but the sound of the engine keeps calling me out!
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