HELP! XMoto won't start after cleaning air filter-carb : (

puush · 03-25-2009, 06:11 PM

Hello,

My XMoto will not start> I recently cleaned the Air Filter and Carb which was extra dirty with mud water. I also changed oil, spark plug and charged battery. I tried starting it today and it turns over but wont start even after I sprayed starter fluid into the air filter. I have to charge my battery again because I drained it trying to start it.

Do you all have any suggestions?? I am going to try and start the bike tommorrow after I charge battery and I will try and spray starter fluid straight in carb.

Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks dudes.

Michael A

SpeedSouth · 03-25-2009, 06:21 PM

I'm far an expert, but my advice would be to put the starting fluid down and start with the basics.

You need air, fuel and spark. Make sure there's gas in the tank and the petcock is on. Make sure the plug is gapped correctly and that it provides a spark. Make sure the intake isn't restricted.

I've never really had to go beyond those basics myself...so maybe that will get you closer to the problem.

Also, check the choke and throttle cables to make sure they are working smoothly. It's fairly common to put the carb slide in incorrectly.

Hope that helps. Good luck. I'm sure someone else will have more detailed advice to offer.

puush · 03-25-2009, 06:56 PM

thanks dude

puush · 03-25-2009, 07:16 PM

I just Cleaned the Air filter so its getting Air ok. I cleaned the carb and put the carb slider back in correctly. I will try the old spark plug. the throttle cable and chock are working ok. I'll give it a try with the old spark plug.

puush · 03-26-2009, 08:44 PM

My bike wasn't getting any gas flow thru fuel filter. I fix all of that and it still wont start. I bought a new battery because my old battery was, lets say, "exposed to a lot of water". I dont know if getting a new battery will make any difference but I dont know what else to do. My dad thinks I should blow out the carbuerator. Any thoughts?

Michael A

Cal25 · 03-27-2009, 08:50 AM

Was it running before you cleaned everything?

AZ200cc · 03-27-2009, 01:27 PM

Valves? You said it was water logged how long did the water stay in there?

puush · 03-27-2009, 06:11 PM

The build up in mud water in my Air Box was for awhile but the bike still started. Barely.

My bike still wont start. The Air Filter is clear and the exhaust isn't clogged so its "getting air".

I removed the obstruction from the fuel filter and cleaned the carb meticulously so its "getting fuel.

Took out the Spark plug and tested it to see if its getting any spark and I got a got blue spark. So its "getting spark".

Bought a new battery and its fully charged. My bike turns over really strong but it doesn't start. It doesn't even minutely act like its going to start. This is a total bummer.

What should I do now? I am totally lost. Maybe I can try some new solutions this weekend. Thanks for all your help.

Michael A

katoranger · 03-27-2009, 07:32 PM

It looks like you already tried a different plug so we will rule that out.

Have you checked the valves?

Allen

puush · 03-27-2009, 08:29 PM

I haven't checked the valves yet. Can I just follow the instructions from the sticky post on valves? Also, do I need to no the valve gap measurement for my bike? I was looking over the post on valve adjustment and it looks like something I can do. The bike sounds similiar to when my china buggy 250cc buggy didn't start and I had to adjust the valves and it worked.

What are your suggestions/solutions. Thanks for all your help.

Michael A

AZ200cc · 03-27-2009, 09:19 PM

ANything that got through would have made it into the valves, Could have rusted them or clogged them etc etc.....

puush · 03-27-2009, 09:37 PM

Should I make a go of it of Red2003's Valve Adjustment Tutorial? While I'm at it. should I try adjusting valves on my old DB-27? I have never adjusted valves on my DB-27. Thanks for your help mate.

MIchael A

AZ200cc · 03-28-2009, 12:31 AM

Won't hurt

You're welcome

puush · 03-28-2009, 10:08 PM

I adjusted my valves on and my bike still wont start. The gap was kinda wide on the exhaust valve gap and almost shut on the intake valve gap.

I am pretty sure I did it right. I had Top dead center and gapped my valves, .05mm gap for intake valve. and .08mm gap for exhaust valve. I am not hundred percent sure what the gap spacing should be. I just used those measurements from the Valve adjustment instructions on one of these posts.

Any suggestions or solutions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Michael A

AZ200cc · 03-29-2009, 12:02 AM

WIth all of those attempts at starting do You smell fuel? It should be flooded as heck.....The plug should even be wet when You take it out.

03-25-2009, 06:11 PM	#1
puush Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 123	HELP! XMoto won't start after cleaning air filter-carb : ( Hello, My XMoto will not start> I recently cleaned the Air Filter and Carb which was extra dirty with mud water. I also changed oil, spark plug and charged battery. I tried starting it today and it turns over but wont start even after I sprayed starter fluid into the air filter. I have to charge my battery again because I drained it trying to start it. Do you all have any suggestions?? I am going to try and start the bike tommorrow after I charge battery and I will try and spray starter fluid straight in carb. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks dudes. Michael A __________________ Michael, IT Dude From the Great Land of Lake County
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03-25-2009, 06:21 PM	#2
SpeedSouth Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 710	I'm far an expert, but my advice would be to put the starting fluid down and start with the basics. You need air, fuel and spark. Make sure there's gas in the tank and the petcock is on. Make sure the plug is gapped correctly and that it provides a spark. Make sure the intake isn't restricted. I've never really had to go beyond those basics myself...so maybe that will get you closer to the problem. Also, check the choke and throttle cables to make sure they are working smoothly. It's fairly common to put the carb slide in incorrectly. Hope that helps. Good luck. I'm sure someone else will have more detailed advice to offer. __________________ 2008 American Lifan LF200 GY-5 (930 km) - Sold 2007 Kawasaki EX250 - Sold 2006 Kawasaki EX650R - My new ride! 2005 Kawasaki EX250 - A new project
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03-25-2009, 06:56 PM	#3
puush Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 123	thanks thanks dude __________________ Michael, IT Dude From the Great Land of Lake County
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03-25-2009, 07:16 PM	#4
puush Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 123	check I just Cleaned the Air filter so its getting Air ok. I cleaned the carb and put the carb slider back in correctly. I will try the old spark plug. the throttle cable and chock are working ok. I'll give it a try with the old spark plug. __________________ Michael, IT Dude From the Great Land of Lake County
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03-26-2009, 08:44 PM	#5
puush Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 123	NO GAS My bike wasn't getting any gas flow thru fuel filter. I fix all of that and it still wont start. I bought a new battery because my old battery was, lets say, "exposed to a lot of water". I dont know if getting a new battery will make any difference but I dont know what else to do. My dad thinks I should blow out the carbuerator. Any thoughts? Michael A __________________ Michael, IT Dude From the Great Land of Lake County
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03-27-2009, 08:50 AM	#6
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	Was it running before you cleaned everything?
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03-27-2009, 01:27 PM	#7
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	Valves? You said it was water logged how long did the water stay in there? __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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03-27-2009, 06:11 PM	#8
puush Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 123	still won't start The build up in mud water in my Air Box was for awhile but the bike still started. Barely. My bike still wont start. The Air Filter is clear and the exhaust isn't clogged so its "getting air". I removed the obstruction from the fuel filter and cleaned the carb meticulously so its "getting fuel. Took out the Spark plug and tested it to see if its getting any spark and I got a got blue spark. So its "getting spark". Bought a new battery and its fully charged. My bike turns over really strong but it doesn't start. It doesn't even minutely act like its going to start. This is a total bummer. What should I do now? I am totally lost. Maybe I can try some new solutions this weekend. Thanks for all your help. Michael A __________________ Michael, IT Dude From the Great Land of Lake County
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03-27-2009, 07:32 PM	#9
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	It looks like you already tried a different plug so we will rule that out. Have you checked the valves? Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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03-27-2009, 08:29 PM	#10
puush Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 123	valves? I haven't checked the valves yet. Can I just follow the instructions from the sticky post on valves? Also, do I need to no the valve gap measurement for my bike? I was looking over the post on valve adjustment and it looks like something I can do. The bike sounds similiar to when my china buggy 250cc buggy didn't start and I had to adjust the valves and it worked. What are your suggestions/solutions. Thanks for all your help. Michael A __________________ Michael, IT Dude From the Great Land of Lake County
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03-27-2009, 09:19 PM	#11
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	ANything that got through would have made it into the valves, Could have rusted them or clogged them etc etc..... __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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03-27-2009, 09:37 PM	#12
puush Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 123	go for it Should I make a go of it of Red2003's Valve Adjustment Tutorial? While I'm at it. should I try adjusting valves on my old DB-27? I have never adjusted valves on my DB-27. Thanks for your help mate. MIchael A __________________ Michael, IT Dude From the Great Land of Lake County
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03-28-2009, 12:31 AM	#13
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	Won't hurt You're welcome __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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03-28-2009, 10:08 PM	#14
puush Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 123	still wont start I adjusted my valves on and my bike still wont start. The gap was kinda wide on the exhaust valve gap and almost shut on the intake valve gap. I am pretty sure I did it right. I had Top dead center and gapped my valves, .05mm gap for intake valve. and .08mm gap for exhaust valve. I am not hundred percent sure what the gap spacing should be. I just used those measurements from the Valve adjustment instructions on one of these posts. Any suggestions or solutions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Michael A __________________ Michael, IT Dude From the Great Land of Lake County
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03-29-2009, 12:02 AM	#15
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	WIth all of those attempts at starting do You smell fuel? It should be flooded as heck.....The plug should even be wet when You take it out. __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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