Hawk Talk

[Cruisin_with_CJ]

Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

If it was mine, I'd take off the intake air hose and squirt a little gas in the carburetor, then crank it on the starter and see what happans...ARH

Is there an air box mod delete where I can just put a air filter on the back of the carb? Seems like that would be easier after everything is said and done. How do your mean shoot the gas into the back? With what exactly?

[Bruce's]

Originally Posted by Cruisin_with_CJ

Is there an air box mod delete where I can just put a air filter on the back of the carb? Seems like that would be easier after everything is said and done. How do your mean shoot the gas into the back? With what exactly?

Try a squeeze bottle ,I have an old mustard bottle with gas in it ,squeeze it in the rear of the carb .

[pete]

buy a can of engine start... spray it in the the air cleaner as you
crank the motor over with the starter...


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[Ariel Red Hunter]

Originally Posted by pete

buy a can of engine start... spray it in the the air cleaner as you
crank the motor over with the starter...


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This man seems to be a bit inexperienced in working on engines. That's why I didn't suggest engine starting fluid...ARH

[Cruisin_with_CJ]

Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

This man seems to be a bit inexperienced in working on engines. That's why I didn't suggest engine starting fluid...ARH

ok so i got it started. I have some experience with engines, but no not a whole lot. I cant get the idle down lower though, its either so high something starts to rattle or its to high without rattle. i know that seems a little confusing. in videos ive seen from motocheez it seems very quite, is that just the video?

[Cruisin_with_CJ]

Originally Posted by Cruisin_with_CJ

ok so i got it started. I have some experience with engines, but no not a whole lot. I cant get the idle down lower though, its either so high something starts to rattle or its to high without rattle. i know that seems a little confusing. in videos ive seen from motocheez it seems very quite, is that just the video?

here is a video i took, by the way i did not use the gas into the back of the carb...

[Cruisin_with_CJ]

Originally Posted by Cruisin_with_CJ

here is a video i took, by the way i did not use the gas into the back of the carb...

ok so it wont let me upload the video, here is a youtube link...

[Megadan]

To butt my 2 cents in, but this sounds an awful lot like either a vacuum leak or a mechanical issue with the carb. You said that you looked at the carb. How in depth did you delve into it? Also, when you say you hear a rattle, are you able to pinpoint where the rattle comes from?

[Cruisin_with_CJ]

Originally Posted by Megadan

To butt my 2 cents in, but this sounds an awful lot like either a vacuum leak or a mechanical issue with the carb. You said that you looked at the carb. How in depth did you delve into it? Also, when you say you hear a rattle, are you able to pinpoint where the rattle comes from?

The rattle was coming from the brake lever against the foot peg. All cent are welcome, i need to get these running asap. I took it apart, I went to MMI (boat division) and that was some of what I retained, I like working on carbs, I found them fun when I was 18... Do you think I should send the carb back and get a new one? or would you think more of a vacuum leak, wouldn't come from the air box?

[Megadan]

Any vacuum leak that would cause idle issues would happen at or after the throttle slide. I know that there have been a few cases of carb and/or intake manifold O-Rings/Gaskets that were torn or damaged in some way from the factory.

Did you clean and blow out all of the passages in the carb when you took it apart? I've seen clogged air jets cause issues like this. Very common issue with Goldwings when they sit because their passages are so small.

The only other thing I can think of off the top of my head is a bad seal around the main or pilot. The main jets emulsion tube has an O-ring seal. Maybe that little guy got damaged in some way.

[Cruisin_with_CJ]

Originally Posted by Megadan

Any vacuum leak that would cause idle issues would happen at or after the throttle slide. I know that there have been a few cases of carb and/or intake manifold O-Rings/Gaskets that were torn or damaged in some way from the factory.

Did you clean and blow out all of the passages in the carb when you took it apart? I've seen clogged air jets cause issues like this. Very common issue with Goldwings when they sit because their passages are so small.

The only other thing I can think of off the top of my head is a bad seal around the main or pilot. The main jets emulsion tube has an O-ring seal. Maybe that little guy got damaged in some way.

Ok back to taking part the carb again lol, thank you for info, ill update tomorrow, way to humid at the moment.

I also back that screw out all the way at one point and it did nothing, putting it to stock or further in was to was to high. Idk if that helps any...

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by Cruisin_with_CJ

Ok back to taking part the carb again lol, thank you for info, ill update tomorrow, way to humid at the moment.

My sweat soaked shirt from finishing my Hawk's assembly understands completely! lol.

[Cruisin_with_CJ]

Originally Posted by Megadan

My sweat soaked shirt from finishing my Hawk's assembly understands completely! lol.

one more thought before i go for the night, could the throttle not having any play in it have anything to do with it? Im sure there is supped to be like an 1/8th or 1/4, right?

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by Cruisin_with_CJ

one more thought before i go for the night, could the throttle not having any play in it have anything to do with it? Im sure there is supped to be like an 1/8th or 1/4, right?

Yes! If that slide is being held open a bit, it would definitely cause it to "idle" high. You may have just found your problem.

[Cruisin_with_CJ]

Originally Posted by Megadan

Yes! If that slide is being held open a bit, it would definitely cause it to "idle" high. You may have just found your problem.

oooo that sounds so much either than take the whole carb apart again!!! lol