Want to return after a 2 year hiatus

Ski_rush · 02-16-2019, 02:42 PM

Hi Everyone...long story short, I had a Hawk/Enforcer 2 years ago for a very short time. I sold it after owning it for about 3 months, and I've regretted it ever since. I sold it to get a street bike, but I've since sold that too. I haven't had a bike for about 2 years now.

I'd like to get back into the world of a dual sport China bike. I remember this online community as being very welcoming and helpful. Since I've been gone from this "world" for about 2 years, I was hoping to get some tips and advice about what to get and what's new.

I was searching around online and saw that Apollo has a super-motard style bike now. That seemed like a pretty nice bike, and I know that the Apollo bikes have generally received positive reviews.

Has anything changed or improved on the Hawk in the past 2 years? Any new developments?

Are there new models that I should be considering?

I purchased my bike (2 years ago) from Don at ASPUSA (or something like that; I can't remember the name of it). I was a fine transaction without any problems. Are there any vendors I should avoid? Any good recommendations?

Thanks for any advice you can give me and I look forward to hearing your feedback.

**JerryHawk250** · 02-16-2019, 03:29 PM

Welcome back.

I knew you would be back. Lol. The Hawk DLX will be coming out in a month or two. It will be fuel injected and Dot approved for highway. I like the new Apollo Deluxe too. I think that will be the better choice.

Ski_rush · 02-16-2019, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

Welcome back.

I knew you would be back. Lol. The Hawk DLX will be coming out in a month or two. It will be fuel injected and Dot approved for highway. I like the new Apollo Deluxe too. I think that will be the better choice.

Hey Jerry. Thanks again for all of your help 2 years ago!

What’s new about the Hawk DLX, other than the fuel injection? I saw on the ASPCUSA website that they are selling the Bashan Enforcer with an upgraded Zoghsten engine. Is this the same thing you’re talking about?

**JerryHawk250** · 02-16-2019, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ski_rush

Hey Jerry. Thanks again for all of your help 2 years ago!

What’s new about the Hawk DLX, other than the fuel injection? I saw on the ASPCUSA website that they are selling the Bashan Enforcer with an upgraded Zoghsten engine. Is this the same thing you’re talking about?

That's about the only thing that has changed on the Hawk. Don's other website has the Lifan KPR 200 which you might be more interested for street. It is capable of 75mph+ speeds and is watercooled and Fuel injected. http://shopapmc.com/New-American-Lif...line_p_58.html He also has the BMS CRP250.

roundhouse · 02-16-2019, 04:23 PM

Man Jery, that Lifan may only have 17 HP but it is only 330 lbs. Sure it will not be fast but it looks cool and can get on the freeway with no probs.

pete · 02-16-2019, 04:30 PM

why the hell don't lifan build a duel sport around
that motor.... water cooled / injected / six speed..

.

**JerryHawk250** · 02-16-2019, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by roundhouse

Man Jery, that Lifan may only have 17 HP but it is only 330 lbs. Sure it will not be fast but it looks cool and can get on the freeway with no probs.

Check out some top speed YouTube video on it. Quiet a few with 130 to 150 kph. It makes it's HP at higher rpm's.

**JerryHawk250** · 02-16-2019, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pete

why the hell don't lifan build a duel sport around
that motor.... water cooled / injected / six speed..

.

My thought exactly. They would sell with that setup.

culcune · 02-16-2019, 06:32 PM

American Lifan is leading Lifan worldwide in getting some 250 models created. Their KPT 200 adventure style bike will be 250 in the US. In the meantime, we are 'stuck' with their 200 offerings, but their KPM 200 cafe style bike looks very promising even if it is only a 200. I agree with you Pete about them NOT sticking their FI/LC 200 in their enduro. I was under the impression we WERE getting such a model, but we are getting a fuel injected 163 FML instead...and 'Californians need not apply' because they aren't getting CARB on that engine. On their home site, they show an aggressive-looking 250 street fighter with 25 hp, so hopefully that will be their new path as far as engines go. On American Lifan's FB page, they teased a 350 street fighter AND 450 adv. bike, so there might be even greater things to come. I would hope they do shove the 200 FI/LQ engine in an enduro for California's sake and so they don't put that engine out to pasture.

Sir kayakalot · 02-17-2019, 12:07 PM

Welcome back ski rush! We have to penalize you 2 points for being gone for so long but you can get back in good graces by being the first one to get the new fuel injected Hawk

ChipToothy · 02-18-2019, 11:53 AM

What’s the expected price tag on the new super hawk?

Deryl · 02-18-2019, 07:25 PM

$1799 as of now. It says pre-order now, real price to be announced. Different stickers, digital dash and fi from what it looks like and fully loaded!, whatever that means. Hahaha. Maybe it means a even more restricted cat in the exhaust.
https://www.txpowersports.com/New_ha...p/hawk-dlx.htm

For me not sure how they can get that price for so little change. I like the simplicity of a carb. Less to go wrong and easy to clean and jet.

ben2go · 02-19-2019, 01:47 PM

We don't accept returns.

Welcome back.

02-16-2019, 02:42 PM	#1
Ski_rush Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 449	Want to return after a 2 year hiatus Hi Everyone...long story short, I had a Hawk/Enforcer 2 years ago for a very short time. I sold it after owning it for about 3 months, and I've regretted it ever since. I sold it to get a street bike, but I've since sold that too. I haven't had a bike for about 2 years now. I'd like to get back into the world of a dual sport China bike. I remember this online community as being very welcoming and helpful. Since I've been gone from this "world" for about 2 years, I was hoping to get some tips and advice about what to get and what's new. I was searching around online and saw that Apollo has a super-motard style bike now. That seemed like a pretty nice bike, and I know that the Apollo bikes have generally received positive reviews. Has anything changed or improved on the Hawk in the past 2 years? Any new developments? Are there new models that I should be considering? I purchased my bike (2 years ago) from Don at ASPUSA (or something like that; I can't remember the name of it). I was a fine transaction without any problems. Are there any vendors I should avoid? Any good recommendations? Thanks for any advice you can give me and I look forward to hearing your feedback.
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02-16-2019, 03:29 PM	#2
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,553	Welcome back. I knew you would be back. Lol. The Hawk DLX will be coming out in a month or two. It will be fuel injected and Dot approved for highway. I like the new Apollo Deluxe too. I think that will be the better choice. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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02-16-2019, 04:30 PM	#6
pete Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: ChCh , NZ Posts: 2,261	why the hell don't lifan build a duel sport around that motor.... water cooled / injected / six speed.. . __________________ 09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com
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02-16-2019, 06:32 PM	#9
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	American Lifan is leading Lifan worldwide in getting some 250 models created. Their KPT 200 adventure style bike will be 250 in the US. In the meantime, we are 'stuck' with their 200 offerings, but their KPM 200 cafe style bike looks very promising even if it is only a 200. I agree with you Pete about them NOT sticking their FI/LC 200 in their enduro. I was under the impression we WERE getting such a model, but we are getting a fuel injected 163 FML instead...and 'Californians need not apply' because they aren't getting CARB on that engine. On their home site, they show an aggressive-looking 250 street fighter with 25 hp, so hopefully that will be their new path as far as engines go. On American Lifan's FB page, they teased a 350 street fighter AND 450 adv. bike, so there might be even greater things to come. I would hope they do shove the 200 FI/LQ engine in an enduro for California's sake and so they don't put that engine out to pasture. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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02-17-2019, 12:07 PM	#10
Sir kayakalot Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 269	Welcome back ski rush! We have to penalize you 2 points for being gone for so long but you can get back in good graces by being the first one to get the new fuel injected Hawk __________________ Hawk 250 Mikuni carb 115 main. De-catted pipe. Air box mod. 15/42 sprockets. Digital instrument cluster, FMF end cap on muffler, handlebar toolbag, Custom foot pegs
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02-16-2019, 04:23 PM	#5
roundhouse Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: N Texas Posts: 706	Man Jery, that Lifan may only have 17 HP but it is only 330 lbs. Sure it will not be fast but it looks cool and can get on the freeway with no probs.
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02-18-2019, 11:53 AM	#11
ChipToothy Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 819	What’s the expected price tag on the new super hawk? __________________ Bashan Storm: Ebay steel exhaust wrapped, folding shift lever, seat mod, vm26 carb, air pod, dual led scrambler headlamps, windshield mod, led brake/tail light, secondary led brake light (swingarm), Ebay 295mm rear shock, back up CDI (racing unknown), oil cooler, digital gauge cluster,
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02-18-2019, 07:25 PM	#12
Deryl Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 68	$1799 as of now. It says pre-order now, real price to be announced. Different stickers, digital dash and fi from what it looks like and fully loaded!, whatever that means. Hahaha. Maybe it means a even more restricted cat in the exhaust. https://www.txpowersports.com/New_ha...p/hawk-dlx.htm For me not sure how they can get that price for so little change. I like the simplicity of a carb. Less to go wrong and easy to clean and jet.
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02-19-2019, 01:47 PM	#13
ben2go Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,335	We don't accept returns. Welcome back.
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