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Old 08-25-2020, 07:26 PM   #1
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Angry new apollo, no start

alright this is my 3rd china bike.

apollo z20 125cc

gotta say the vendor did me wrong. sent me the wrong bike and then want me to pay to ship it back and it arrived all jacked up.

assembled quickly,

have gas, have air, seem to have spark but hard to tell without a proper sized spark tester.

seems to have no resistence at all on the kick start.

tried all variations of key on/off, run switch on/off, choke on/off

gas is coming from the carb bowl drain so i know its getting gas.

also even with the clutch cable tightened, and fully in, there is resistence ot the bike rolling in 1st gear.

I attempted to pop start it after my leg wore out.

Removed foot pedal in case it was preventing a full stroke.

im stumped and the vendor isnt being very helpfull.

any tips?


 
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Old 08-25-2020, 08:18 PM   #2
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alright this is my 3rd china bike.

apollo z20 125cc

gotta say the vendor did me wrong. sent me the wrong bike and then want me to pay to ship it back and it arrived all jacked up.

assembled quickly,

have gas, have air, seem to have spark but hard to tell without a proper sized spark tester.

seems to have no resistence at all on the kick start.

tried all variations of key on/off, run switch on/off, choke on/off

gas is coming from the carb bowl drain so i know its getting gas.

also even with the clutch cable tightened, and fully in, there is resistence ot the bike rolling in 1st gear.

I attempted to pop start it after my leg wore out.

Removed foot pedal in case it was preventing a full stroke.

im stumped and the vendor isnt being very helpfull.

any tips?
Did you check valve lash? Maybe they are too tight not allowing the valves to close and create compression.
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Old 08-26-2020, 01:03 AM   #3
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Did you check valve lash? Maybe they are too tight not allowing the valves to close and create compression.
dumb question, but where is the valve lash?


 
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Old 08-26-2020, 02:09 AM   #4
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dumb question, but where is the valve lash?


It is the clearance between the rocker and the valve stem.
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Old 08-26-2020, 08:40 AM   #5
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Is there any way I can get a drill on the flywheel to spin the engine to try and start it?


 
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Old 08-26-2020, 08:51 AM   #6
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if there is no resistance when kicking it over then there is likely no compression. Since its new the most likely cause is what Big Bird said, tight valves.
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Old 08-26-2020, 12:38 PM   #7
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Have you tried kick starting with the clutch lever released? I had an Apollo RFZ, and I want to say it would not start when holding the clutch lever.


 
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:20 PM   #8
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Have you tried kick starting with the clutch lever released? I had an Apollo RFZ, and I want to say it would not start when holding the clutch lever.
Funny you posted this.....

Vendor got back to me after I sent a video of starting attempts.

And yes I had to leave the clutch out... crazy..

Got her to fire up

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