Chain protecting clip fittings, and engine management light on ....

linuxyeti · 07-15-2016, 05:43 PM

Hi All

Got caught out in some pretty ropey weather today, very wet, and since that, got a couple of problems ..

First off the the chain protecting clip has come loose, the fitting that secured it have come off.

http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/Protec...-p/z52-109.htm

Item 10 on this page, can anybody please confirm what fittings I need to get to secure mine back in place.

Also, the engine management light is now constantly on (red), any quick suggestions? The bike seems to be riding fine and so on.

Many thanks in advance.

Tony

Jay In Milpitas · 07-15-2016, 08:56 PM

I can't help you with the engine management light, sorry.

For the chain clip it also shows parts 6,7,8,9. It uses 4 screws (two 6x12, two 6x16) two flange washers, two "I section pad". I think the pad goes over the flange washer.

You may be able to just use four screws without the other parts, but do not make them very tight or you may damage the clip. Maybe a bit of weather strip adhesive to hold them in place, locktite is too strong.

DanKearney · 07-16-2016, 09:16 AM

If the engine management light is on, then the computer senses something out of specification. Even though the engine seems to run right, you should investigate.

I cannot remember where, but somewhere within this "Zonshen RX3" forum there is a post which has the procedure for getting the engine management light to display a sequence of flashes. The same post has a chart which decyphers that flash sequence to point to the problem.

You'll have to do a little searching to find it, but it should help. Good luck.

Cheers,

Dan K.

Azhule · 07-16-2016, 10:07 AM

http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....49&postcount=7

Try this post

linuxyeti · 07-18-2016, 02:08 AM

Hi All

THanks all, I've not had the chance to look at it since Friday, but I will try today.

Cheers

Tony

linuxyeti · 07-18-2016, 07:33 AM

Hi All

Well, the chain protecting clip is nice and securely back in place. However, no joy with the engine management light, it simply stays a constant, no flashing, and that includes carrying out the routine in the thread listed above :-(.

I'm hoping it's just abit of water ingress somewhere, and once everything has dried out, it should clear.

Just out of curiosity, can you reset the fault light, that way, if there is a problem, after it's been reset the fault should re-appear?

Thanks

Tony

linuxyeti · 07-18-2016, 08:55 AM

Hi

Just an update, I've disconnected the battery, and also, disconnected the ECU, however, I still get the solid engine warning light, which I can't get to flash at all, any other suggestions?

Cheers

Tony

BlackBike · 07-18-2016, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linuxyeti

Hi

Just an update, I've disconnected the battery, and also, disconnected the ECU, however, I still get the solid engine warning light, which I can't get to flash at all, any other suggestions?

Cheers

Tony

So you are saying that after you disconnected the battery for 10 min, then reconnected the battery, the solid trouble light came back on after running the engine.?
This seems to indicate there is a persistent fault

Then , without cranking over the engine, you turned the key switch to on/ off for 3 cycles and it did not start flashing a code?

I am just following the instructions as I u Der stood them from that spud link. So just wondering if you did what I did in my mind.

You might try to intentionally cause a fault by disconnecting a device in the system and see if It would then give you a flash code. Therefore you could see if the cpu is functioning as programed.

The other thing which I would try is re-seat all the connections using dielectric grease (not a popular thing to say) , you know how electronics are. One little bit of disorder and they lose their mind.

Hopefully it's in the dry with a circulating fan and it will fix the issue, might take awhile although.

katflap · 07-18-2016, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linuxyeti

Hi

Just an update, I've disconnected the battery, and also, disconnected the ECU, however, I still get the solid engine warning light, which I can't get to flash at all, any other suggestions?

Cheers

Tony

It can take a full minute with the ignition on before the MIL light begins to flash.

You might want to check out my thread here

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=14758

Ive just added some new download links in my last post.

linuxyeti · 07-19-2016, 06:51 AM

Hi Katflap

Thanks for that, I'll download them, and have a play. However, in the meantime, I've managed to get the flashing fault, which equates to .

P0850

Which isn't on the table posted on the other thread, on other ecu's this seems to indicate 'park/neutral' switch input?

The neutral light works as it should, so, has anybody got any ideas?

Thanks

Tony

katflap · 07-19-2016, 12:02 PM

According to this manual for a different bike that uses the Delphi ECU,

It can also indicate a problem with the clutch switch.

You might want to check out page 63

https://mega.nz/#!Iw4CzArR!Llf3tbatL...hoQY1VQvwJ33ws

Also I've updated my link again on the last post here

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=14758

this is a more organised download than what I did yesterday and I think probably more useful

07-15-2016, 05:43 PM	#1
linuxyeti Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Wolverhampton, UK Posts: 76	Chain protecting clip fittings, and engine management light on .... Hi All Got caught out in some pretty ropey weather today, very wet, and since that, got a couple of problems .. First off the the chain protecting clip has come loose, the fitting that secured it have come off. http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/Protec...-p/z52-109.htm Item 10 on this page, can anybody please confirm what fittings I need to get to secure mine back in place. Also, the engine management light is now constantly on (red), any quick suggestions? The bike seems to be riding fine and so on. Many thanks in advance. Tony
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07-16-2016, 09:16 AM	#3
DanKearney Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 216	If the engine management light is on, then the computer senses something out of specification. Even though the engine seems to run right, you should investigate. I cannot remember where, but somewhere within this "Zonshen RX3" forum there is a post which has the procedure for getting the engine management light to display a sequence of flashes. The same post has a chart which decyphers that flash sequence to point to the problem. You'll have to do a little searching to find it, but it should help. Good luck. Cheers, Dan K. __________________ Dan Kearney - Black Hawk, Colorado, USA Dan's Motorcycle Blog - "Lost? I'm not lost. I'm just exploring. . ."
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Azhule Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CO Posts: 1,525	http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....49&postcount=7 Try this post __________________ "Think as you like... but this self proclaimed Professor is always right" - Buckshot "You never know what someone is hiding beneath their smile..." - NinjaTom - R.I.P.
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07-15-2016, 08:56 PM	#2
Jay In Milpitas Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Milpitas, CA. USA Posts: 775	I can't help you with the engine management light, sorry. For the chain clip it also shows parts 6,7,8,9. It uses 4 screws (two 6x12, two 6x16) two flange washers, two "I section pad". I think the pad goes over the flange washer. You may be able to just use four screws without the other parts, but do not make them very tight or you may damage the clip. Maybe a bit of weather strip adhesive to hold them in place, locktite is too strong.
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07-18-2016, 02:08 AM	#5
linuxyeti Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Wolverhampton, UK Posts: 76	Hi All THanks all, I've not had the chance to look at it since Friday, but I will try today. Cheers Tony
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07-18-2016, 07:33 AM	#6
linuxyeti Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Wolverhampton, UK Posts: 76	Hi All Well, the chain protecting clip is nice and securely back in place. However, no joy with the engine management light, it simply stays a constant, no flashing, and that includes carrying out the routine in the thread listed above :-(. I'm hoping it's just abit of water ingress somewhere, and once everything has dried out, it should clear. Just out of curiosity, can you reset the fault light, that way, if there is a problem, after it's been reset the fault should re-appear? Thanks Tony
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07-18-2016, 08:55 AM	#7
linuxyeti Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Wolverhampton, UK Posts: 76	Hi Just an update, I've disconnected the battery, and also, disconnected the ECU, however, I still get the solid engine warning light, which I can't get to flash at all, any other suggestions? Cheers Tony
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07-19-2016, 06:51 AM	#10
linuxyeti Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Wolverhampton, UK Posts: 76	Hi Katflap Thanks for that, I'll download them, and have a play. However, in the meantime, I've managed to get the flashing fault, which equates to . P0850 Which isn't on the table posted on the other thread, on other ecu's this seems to indicate 'park/neutral' switch input? The neutral light works as it should, so, has anybody got any ideas? Thanks Tony
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07-19-2016, 12:02 PM	#11
katflap Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: England Posts: 382	According to this manual for a different bike that uses the Delphi ECU, It can also indicate a problem with the clutch switch. You might want to check out page 63 https://mega.nz/#!Iw4CzArR!Llf3tbatL...hoQY1VQvwJ33ws Also I've updated my link again on the last post here http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=14758 this is a more organised download than what I did yesterday and I think probably more useful
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