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Weldangrind · 01-26-2015, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by katoranger

Will be on the lookout for a big red motor. I see lots of those old ATC around here.

I'm going to do the same. It must be chain drive, but I suspect that it could be a 185 instead of a 200. The parts will likely cross over.

If I find one cheap enough, I'm gonna try building a Frankenstein motor.

katoranger · 01-26-2015, 04:05 PM

I will be looking. They are around.

recracer · 01-28-2015, 11:56 PM

Interesting zongshen calls this engine a double clutch . It has a provided clutch lever for a cable hook up as well as a centrifugal clutch http://www.zse.cc/productsdetail.asp...ProductsID=422

Weldangrind · 01-29-2015, 06:48 PM

Interesting. Do you see where they actually offer the clutches for sale, or only the complete engine?

Weldangrind · 01-29-2015, 06:49 PM

Humanbeing, are you able to ask your friends on Chinese forums about installing a centrifugal clutch in a CG200? Somebody must have done one.

recracer · 01-29-2015, 09:09 PM

No . I just found this . I have no details other than this site . First think that strikes me right away,is the side cover with 2 larger round places . A sales girl in china is trying to find out more for me . covers maybe interchangable

Weldangrind · 01-29-2015, 09:54 PM

I doubt it. The centrifugal clutch runs off of the crankshaft, and it sticks out quite a bit (on the ATC's at least). I don't think a standard cover would have the clearance.

recracer · 01-29-2015, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

I doubt it. The centrifugal clutch runs off of the crankshaft, and it sticks out quite a bit (on the ATC's at least). I don't think a standard cover would have the clearance.

oh I mean maybe we could use the double clutch cover and add a centrifugal clutch. if there is not a difference on the crankshaft end . This would still need a clutch lever and cable . Really this setup is automatic for sitting still in gear. of course we can upshift without a clutch . downshifting a little harder

Weldangrind · 09-11-2015, 11:39 AM

HB, I'm looking at this kit for my CB200. Is there a better piston you can recommend for this setup? http://world.taobao.com/item/1517199....14.109.DKkOcA

humanbeing · 09-13-2015, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

HB, I'm looking at this kit for my CB200. Is there a better piston you can recommend for this setup? http://world.taobao.com/item/1517199....14.109.DKkOcA

That 200 was Chonda (63.5mm) or ZS (69mm) ? http://world.taobao.com/item/15550565903.htm
Shipping cost may kill the fun... (The CG kit http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=8432093238 is ~12kg already | This kit weights more than CG )

Weldangrind · 09-13-2015, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by humanbeing

That 200 was Chonda (63.5mm) or ZS (69mm) ? http://world.taobao.com/item/15550565903.htm
Shipping cost may kill the fun... (The CG kit http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=8432093238 is ~12kg already | This kit weights more than CG )

It is the ZS 69mm bore. I bought a CB250 crank to go with it, but you convinced me that it's not worth the trouble. Do you know the CB250 stroke? I'm guessing that it's around 66mm.

Weldangrind · 10-19-2015, 06:23 PM

HB, do you know of a China equivalent to the Kawasaki CS250 or BR250?

Weldangrind · 06-21-2018, 11:25 AM

HB, can you point to any information about the PGO scooters between 1972 and 1982? I can't find anything from those years.

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Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Interesting. Do you see where they actually offer the clutches for sale, or only the complete engine? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Humanbeing, are you able to ask your friends on Chinese forums about installing a centrifugal clutch in a CG200? Somebody must have done one. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-29-2015, 09:54 PM	#97
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I doubt it. The centrifugal clutch runs off of the crankshaft, and it sticks out quite a bit (on the ATC's at least). I don't think a standard cover would have the clearance. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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09-11-2015, 11:39 AM	#99
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	HB, I'm looking at this kit for my CB200. Is there a better piston you can recommend for this setup? http://world.taobao.com/item/1517199....14.109.DKkOcA __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-28-2015, 11:56 PM	#93
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	Interesting zongshen calls this engine a double clutch . It has a provided clutch lever for a cable hook up as well as a centrifugal clutch http://www.zse.cc/productsdetail.asp...ProductsID=422
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10-19-2015, 06:23 PM	#102
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	HB, do you know of a China equivalent to the Kawasaki CS250 or BR250? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-21-2018, 11:25 AM	#103
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	HB, can you point to any information about the PGO scooters between 1972 and 1982? I can't find anything from those years. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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