Hawk Talk

[ricardoguitars]

Originally Posted by xSAVAGEx

I ordered one from BANGGOOD.COM I should know in a couple weeks.

https://www.banggood.com/40inch-Spee...l?rmmds=search

That website looks a lot like Aliexpress, is it the same?

https://www.aliexpress.com/

[Cruisin_with_CJ]

Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

Hey CJ, did you find anything you liked?...ARH

no not yet, all the ones i see have the screw on the front for the idle, im not seeing any with the adjustments on the side :(

I also ordered a set of feeler gauges and am going to check the valves on thurdsay/friday.

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

PM me. I have one I took off when I got the digital cluster. I'll ship to you if you pay the shipping.

And if you want a spare, you can have mine as well. Never even been used because I upgraded to the Tach cluster immediately lol.

[wamey]

Originally Posted by Megadan

And if you want a spare, you can have mine as well. Never even been used because I upgraded to the Tach cluster immediately lol.

Thanks all, I wound up going with the digital cluster from Matt. Money is sent!

On to next issue. The front wheel is not as rigid as I would like with respect to handlebar rotation. What I mean is when I grip the front wheel between my knees, I can rotate the handlebars (about the steering axis) about 3ish degrees. This manifests as the bike feeling a bit squirrely when I go over a long crack in the road. Are there any fork braces out there that we know work?


I'm thinking of something like this.

or

Something like this which seems more doable and we have the mounting points for it.

Thanks again!

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by wamey

Thanks all, I wound up going with the digital cluster from Matt. Money is sent!

On to next issue. The front wheel is not as rigid as I would like with respect to handlebar rotation. What I mean is when I grip the front wheel between my knees, I can rotate the handlebars (about the steering axis) about 3ish degrees. This manifests as the bike feeling a bit squirrely when I go over a long crack in the road. Are there any fork braces out there that we know work?


I'm thinking of something like this.

or

Something like this which seems more doable and we have the mounting points for it.

Thanks again!

I would love a fork brace for mine. It made a world of difference on my Goldwing. I am sure there is a sllution out there. Need to measure the top of the lower forks and find one that diameter or even a mil or two bigger that could be shimmed.

[pete]

Originally Posted by Megadan

I would love a fork brace for mine. It made a world of difference on my Goldwing. I am sure there is a sllution out there. Need to measure the top of the lower forks and find one that diameter or even a mil or two bigger that could be shimmed.

never use a fork brace on a dirt bike that goes off road...
the legs do move inderpendent of each other...
theres a reason no named after market surplyer offer them
for dirt bikes before the USD revalution...

[wamey]

Originally Posted by pete

never use a fork brace on a dirt bike that goes off road...
the legs do move inderpendent of each other...
theres a reason no named after market surplyer offer them
for dirt bikes before the USD revalution...

Why is it a good thing to have the front shocks move independently of each other? I was under the impression you'd just make the front end more rigid.

[Megadan]

Superbrace is hardly a no-name aftermarket supplier.

As far as the argument of a fork brace for off-road. I would agree in the most extreme situations, or a bike that is primarily used for off-road duty. For an on-road bike with light trail or country dirt roads, I will disagree.

[pete]

Originally Posted by Megadan

Superbrace is hardly a no-name aftermarket supplier.

As far as the argument of a fork brace for off-road. I would agree in the most extreme situations, or a bike that is primarily used for off-road duty. For an on-road bike with light trail or country dirt roads, I will disagree.

yer I guess....
comes down to what you call off road in the end...

PS.... Super who ?



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[Megadan]

Originally Posted by pete

PS.... Super who ?



..

https://superbrace.com/

Probably the biggest name in this particular product.

As far as what is considered off-road. I am speaking strictly in context of what most out of the box Chinese made bikes like the Hawk are capable of given their limitations due to material quality, suspension components/capability, and the average use by most riders. Nothing too extreme really.

Thus, I make this argument. If fork flex is so welcome, why did off-road bikes switch to upside down fork setups, where one of the (if not THE) biggest advantages is specifically strength and rigidity, and one of the biggest weaknesses is how vulnerable the fork seals are...or their propensity to spill all of their fluid in the event of a major failure, usually all over things you would rather not have oil on. Traditional forks do actually have some advantages, but rigidity is not one, and that is why a majority of fork braces tend to be made for that style in particular.

Honestly, given the length and diameter of the fork stanchions on the Hawk in particular, even a fork brace will not fully eliminate flex.

[Ariel Red Hunter]

Originally Posted by Megadan

https://superbrace.com/

Probably the biggest name in this particular product.

As far as what is considered off-road. I am speaking strictly in context of what most out of the box Chinese made bikes like the Hawk are capable of given their limitations due to material quality, suspension components/capability, and the average use by most riders. Nothing too extreme really.

Thus, I make this argument. If fork flex is so welcome, why did off-road bikes switch to upside down fork setups, where one of the (if not THE) biggest advantages is specifically strength and rigidity, and one of the biggest weaknesses is how vulnerable the fork seals are...or their propensity to spill all of their fluid in the event of a major failure, usually all over things you would rather not have oil on. Traditional forks do actually have some advantages, but rigidity is not one, and that is why a majority of fork braces tend to be made for that style in particular.

Honestly, given the length and diameter of the fork stanchions on the Hawk in particular, even a fork brace will not fully eliminate flex.

Back in the Late 50's- early 60's, fork braces Helped a lot, especially on Triumph forks. But even factory scrambler Matchless's came with them. And they had much better forks than Triumphs came with in those days...ARH

[wamey]

I still do not understand why extra rigidity would be a bad thing for the front forks. Anyway... I think I found my solution:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252955960539

All measurements except the bolt holes match up, so after a quick bit of modding I should be golden! If anyone else does decide to buy one, they should measure it for themselves. I ordered one and will report my findings back here when it comes in.

[Ariel Red Hunter]

Originally Posted by wamey

I still do not understand why extra rigidity would be a bad thing for the front forks. Anyway... I think I found my solution:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252955960539

All measurements except the bolt holes match up, so after a quick bit of modding I should be golden! If anyone else does decide to buy one, they should measure it for themselves. I ordered one and will report my findings back here when it comes in.

We made our own out of 3/16ths aluminum plate. It helped in two ways. The most obvious was leg to leg stability. The less obvious was preventing the forks twisting in the triple trees. That was a common problem with Triumphs...ARH

[nickle_wayne]

Just done the mikuni carb swap with a 110 jet, got everything back together and it idles crazy high no matter where the idle screw is. Also on the test ride, whike there is increased power, it now feels like there is a steady miss, like a cut in the fuel supply. If I am I creasing speed and laying on the throttle it's not that bad, but when I try to maintain a constant speed, it is really bad.... Ideas?

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by wamey

I still do not understand why extra rigidity would be a bad thing for the front forks. Anyway... I think I found my solution:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252955960539

All measurements except the bolt holes match up, so after a quick bit of modding I should be golden! If anyone else does decide to buy one, they should measure it for themselves. I ordered one and will report my findings back here when it comes in.

Make a thread on your results with pictures. I am curious to see how it turns out.

I was looking at seeing if a fork brace for an older XR200R could work as well, but I need to find some dimensions/specs to be 100% sure. looks like they might work though.