USA Registration...State by State Issues. - Page 5

bikeman · 12-05-2020, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyTBR7

I live in New Jersey. The Hawk is a no go of any kind.

I successfully registered a Tao Tao TBR7 in September 2020 with zero issues.

Agreed, they are strict to adhering to the motorcycle manufacturer list. If the first three digits of the bike's VIN are on the list, you are good. Else, no.

Contact the reseller for the first three digits of a VIN on a bike they sell to check. Very simple.

https://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/vehi...ufacturers.pdf

for you new jersey guys out there, I just got back from Turnersville MVC who was able to transfer everything over. I got the bike a year and a half ago and registered it in VT initially just to save myself the time, since at the time it was unclear whether or not the carbed hawk 250 is street legal in NJ. Most vendors say that it is not legal in NJ. Furthermore, VIN "L0W" is not on NJ's list of approved manufacturers. EFI hawk is obviously no problem since it has a different VIN.

But anyway, despite conflicting information online, I can confirm that the 2018 Hawk 250 can be titled and registered in NJ.

So, I effectively "washed" the paperwork through VT dmv which might be why it worked. They registered it as a HAO make and CYL model, which was consistent with the VT reg. A friend from the Hawk 250 owners group on facebook registered his at the same location fresh from the MCO document, as a Hawk(make) 250(model). So its possible that the rules have changed, maybe some Covid-related ignorance, im not sure.

Joe Schutts · 11-20-2020, 08:06 PM

To:
Originally Posted by RiderRick

Bought a “street legal” EPA and DOT approved 2020 RPS Hawk 250 and had it shipped from Texas. I was impressed with the bike for the money. When I went to title it, I was told it was not registered with the NSTHA (National Safety Transportation Highway Authority). With plates in Front of me, paperwork filled out, the last four words you want to hear from NJMVC are “we have a problem”. Weeks later end result was shipping it back to the vendor who tried to push back. Don’t sell as street legal when they are not!
I still want to get another; can anyone tell me a good Chinese bike that I can title and ride legally in NJ?
Here is a list I found on the link below:https://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/vehi...ufacturers.pdf.
If anyone can advise it’s appreciated. The Hawk had great reviews, don’t know about the others. Thanks, and for those in the beautiful over regulated state of NJ don’t make my mistake!

I clicked on the link for the PDF and is DOES NOT LOAD...

Ryanlee · 01-26-2021, 03:11 PM

How did you all get a notarized MCO? My MCO was not notarized from Powersprotsmax

bikeman · 01-27-2021, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryanlee

How did you all get a notarized MCO? My MCO was not notarized from Powersprotsmax

Does not need to be notarized.

msteele · 04-06-2021, 05:01 PM

Just got my 2020 Hawk 250 tagged and titled in Kansas. The only problem was that they could not find the MSRP in their listing of this bike. It is $1499. (I actually paid $1550, but they needed the MSRP in order to process the MSO.)
Regards to all and thanks for providing this forum.

Widave · 04-09-2021, 09:56 PM

I can not license and register a rps hawk in Wisconsin. Dmv emailed me said no fed badge on bike no plates/registration

Britt · 06-28-2021, 11:52 AM

Bike: 2020 Hawk 250 DLX
Seller: Powersportsmax

State: Florida
Registration date: 2021-06

Requirements: motorcycle endorsement on license, Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin, bill of sale, and proof of insurance.
Issues: none, easy peasy
Total cost: about $320 for tax and registration

Notes: insured through Geico. The manufacturer listed on the MCO, 'Liyang', is not an option on Geico's website, so I had to call. The proof of insurance then said 'Liyang' which matched the MCO.

swanpuppy · 11-01-2021, 01:02 PM

Second confirmation for Wisconsin. RPS hawk is a no go due to fed sticker.

65cabriolet · 11-23-2021, 01:16 PM

Bike: 2021 Hawk 250 (carb. version)
Seller: 360 Powersports

State: Colorado
Registration date: 11/23/2021

Requirements: motorcycle endorsement on license, Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin, bill of sale, and proof of insurance.
Issues: no questions asked

Total cost: about $230 for tax and registration

Note: Bolt holes in license plate holder are not close enough together for tag to fit, put it on at an angle until I can get home to fix this.

su98 · 04-13-2022, 08:49 PM

just bought my 2016 CSCTT250 - Pgh Pa
VIN # LZSJCNTxxxxxxxxxxxxx
from the nicest guy on craiglist a few "shops " would not touch to inspect 5/2022
i have been going to the same notary (AAA wanted over 150 nope )
i even had to wait a day for the plate no problem Geico $ 99/ year
no dealer - no jack maggs

METALMAN329 · 08-03-2022, 04:08 PM

ADD me to the LEGALLY REGISTERED HAWK 250 LIST!!!

MASS - Sailed right through the RMV TODAY!

orangeisnon · 09-14-2022, 03:11 PM

The last comment from a Rhode Islander was two and a half years ago, I'd love to hear if anything has changed in that time. I have an appointment to register my Lifan X-Pect on Friday but I'll have to wait since Orion is dragging their feet on sending the MCO.
Can brand new bikes be registered by mail in Vermont? We've registered old mopeds that way but never anything remotely new. Main concern being inspection - RI will suspend your reg if you don't get inspected.

orangeisnon · 10-13-2022, 10:49 PM

I was able to register my Lifan X-Pect in Vermont. I spoke with the DMV first to confirm some things:
- You do NOT need to send them the MCO
- They ONLY need the bill of sale signed by you and the dealer, and the registration form signed by you. The dealer signature field on the registration form can be empty
- Lifan bikes have the manufacturing company as the Make on the MCO - not Lifan - but registration was successful using Lifan as the Make and X-Pect as the model
- I was told specifically to use sale price as the tax value, NOT book value as the DMV website states
No issues, it did take roughly two weeks to get my plate, and the registration and stickers takes a bit longer, but so long as I'm legal I'm happy.
Another interesting thing with these is that the NHTSA's website pulls up the VIN as the original manufacturer make/model, while Progressive sees it as a Lifan. Who knows which one your DMV is referencing.

Texas Pete · 12-20-2022, 07:57 PM

https://www.atv.com/utvs/what-is-a-utv

For reference, a UTV is not a dirt bike.

Even the web page you linked states:

Additionally, none of the vehicle categories found in the Iowa Motor Vehicle Code can be used to register a UTV for street legal use. Of the possible candidates:

Autocycles are required to have three wheels
Motorcycles cannot have more than three wheels
Low-Speed Vehicles must meet federal LSV qualifications including a top speed of 25 MPH

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Twowheeler · 02-08-2023, 07:21 PM

I have a Templar X 250 in layaway. Has anyone successfully registered one in Ohio?

08-03-2022, 04:08 PM	#11
METALMAN329 Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 5	HAWK legally registered in MA! ADD me to the LEGALLY REGISTERED HAWK 250 LIST!!! MASS - Sailed right through the RMV TODAY!
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09-14-2022, 03:11 PM	#12
orangeisnon Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Eastern CT Posts: 15	The last comment from a Rhode Islander was two and a half years ago, I'd love to hear if anything has changed in that time. I have an appointment to register my Lifan X-Pect on Friday but I'll have to wait since Orion is dragging their feet on sending the MCO. Can brand new bikes be registered by mail in Vermont? We've registered old mopeds that way but never anything remotely new. Main concern being inspection - RI will suspend your reg if you don't get inspected. Last edited by orangeisnon; 09-14-2022 at 03:48 PM. Reason: Rewording Vermont registration to make it sound more respectable.
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12-20-2022, 07:57 PM	#14
Texas Pete Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 585	https://www.atv.com/utvs/what-is-a-utv For reference, a UTV is not a dirt bike. Even the web page you linked states: Additionally, none of the vehicle categories found in the Iowa Motor Vehicle Code can be used to register a UTV for street legal use. Of the possible candidates: Autocycles are required to have three wheels Motorcycles cannot have more than three wheels Low-Speed Vehicles must meet federal LSV qualifications including a top speed of 25 MPH Photograph of a UTV: __________________ 2022 1/2 Templar X 250 - 6 gear model - 13 Front / 40 Rear Sprockets - #42 / #120 Jets - 1mm thick nitrile O-ring needle shim (removed) - Kenda K761 Dual Sport Tires - Sedona Standard Thickness Inner Tubes - Stock OEM battery, carburetor, spark plug still going strong - https://youtu.be/dhAYEKH-jFQ Texas Pete's Templar X 250 Torque Specifications Sheet Texas Pete's Engine Displacement Calculator Texas Pete's Tire and Rim Compatibility
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02-08-2023, 07:21 PM	#15
Twowheeler Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Ohio Posts: 30	What about, Ohio? I have a Templar X 250 in layaway. Has anyone successfully registered one in Ohio?
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11-20-2020, 08:06 PM	#2
Joe Schutts Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Camp Hill, PA Posts: 113	To: Originally Posted by RiderRick Bought a “street legal” EPA and DOT approved 2020 RPS Hawk 250 and had it shipped from Texas. I was impressed with the bike for the money. When I went to title it, I was told it was not registered with the NSTHA (National Safety Transportation Highway Authority). With plates in Front of me, paperwork filled out, the last four words you want to hear from NJMVC are “we have a problem”. Weeks later end result was shipping it back to the vendor who tried to push back. Don’t sell as street legal when they are not! I still want to get another; can anyone tell me a good Chinese bike that I can title and ride legally in NJ? Here is a list I found on the link below:https://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/vehi...ufacturers.pdf. If anyone can advise it’s appreciated. The Hawk had great reviews, don’t know about the others. Thanks, and for those in the beautiful over regulated state of NJ don’t make my mistake! I clicked on the link for the PDF and is DOES NOT LOAD...
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01-26-2021, 03:11 PM	#3
Ryanlee Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 1	How did you all get a notarized MCO? My MCO was not notarized from Powersprotsmax
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04-06-2021, 05:01 PM	#5
msteele Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 2	Just got my 2020 Hawk 250 tagged and titled in Kansas. The only problem was that they could not find the MSRP in their listing of this bike. It is $1499. (I actually paid $1550, but they needed the MSRP in order to process the MSO.) Regards to all and thanks for providing this forum.
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04-09-2021, 09:56 PM	#6
Widave Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 1	I can not license and register a rps hawk in Wisconsin. Dmv emailed me said no fed badge on bike no plates/registration
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06-28-2021, 11:52 AM	#7
Britt Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 61	Bike: 2020 Hawk 250 DLX Seller: Powersportsmax State: Florida Registration date: 2021-06 Requirements: motorcycle endorsement on license, Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin, bill of sale, and proof of insurance. Issues: none, easy peasy Total cost: about $320 for tax and registration Notes: insured through Geico. The manufacturer listed on the MCO, 'Liyang', is not an option on Geico's website, so I had to call. The proof of insurance then said 'Liyang' which matched the MCO.
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11-01-2021, 01:02 PM	#8
swanpuppy Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 17	Second confirmation for Wisconsin. RPS hawk is a no go due to fed sticker.
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11-23-2021, 01:16 PM	#9
65cabriolet Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Brighton CO Posts: 54	Bike: 2021 Hawk 250 (carb. version) Seller: 360 Powersports State: Colorado Registration date: 11/23/2021 Requirements: motorcycle endorsement on license, Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin, bill of sale, and proof of insurance. Issues: no questions asked Total cost: about $230 for tax and registration Note: Bolt holes in license plate holder are not close enough together for tag to fit, put it on at an angle until I can get home to fix this.
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04-13-2022, 08:49 PM	#10
su98 Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 58	just bought my 2016 CSCTT250 - Pgh Pa VIN # LZSJCNTxxxxxxxxxxxxx from the nicest guy on craiglist a few "shops " would not touch to inspect 5/2022 i have been going to the same notary (AAA wanted over 150 nope ) i even had to wait a day for the plate no problem Geico $ 99/ year no dealer - no jack maggs
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10-13-2022, 10:49 PM	#13
orangeisnon Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Eastern CT Posts: 15	I was able to register my Lifan X-Pect in Vermont. I spoke with the DMV first to confirm some things: - You do NOT need to send them the MCO - They ONLY need the bill of sale signed by you and the dealer, and the registration form signed by you. The dealer signature field on the registration form can be empty - Lifan bikes have the manufacturing company as the Make on the MCO - not Lifan - but registration was successful using Lifan as the Make and X-Pect as the model - I was told specifically to use sale price as the tax value, NOT book value as the DMV website states No issues, it did take roughly two weeks to get my plate, and the registration and stickers takes a bit longer, but so long as I'm legal I'm happy. Another interesting thing with these is that the NHTSA's website pulls up the VIN as the original manufacturer make/model, while Progressive sees it as a Lifan. Who knows which one your DMV is referencing.
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