Hawk 250 Overland Travel Bike? - Page 5

Wolftrax · 02-11-2016, 08:08 PM

One of the main concerns of any overland bike is range(miles/tank). I have about 250 miles on this little gem and am happy to report going the distance shouldn't be a problem. It took 2.057 gallons to cover 156 miles. That's 75.83 MPG on a fully loaded bike(me and about 40lbs of weight in the bags). My tank holds 3.31 of fuel. That's a 250 mile range. I tempted not to change the carb or the sprockets.

fishtime9 · 02-11-2016, 08:51 PM

Wolf trax, what modifications and sprockets do you currently have installed, as well how much throttle do you have left when cruising in fifth gear at 55mp/h?

Wolftrax · 02-11-2016, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fishtime9

Wolf trax, what modifications and sprockets do you currently have installed, as well how much throttle do you have left when cruising in fifth gear at 55mp/h?

It's completely stock. I have a Mikuni, jets, 17T counter and 45T drive sprocket all sitting in a box. At 55 indicated on the flat the throttle is approx at 2/3rds. Cracked wide open it will push a tad over 60 but its pushing it. Going to run it stock for the first 500 miles. The engine seems to be getting looser and running better everytime I take it out.

SeerAtlas · 02-12-2016, 01:32 AM

i have the same as wolf cept currently running a 16 for breakin.
i am in the Ozarks with a lot of curvy, hilly (some quite steep) dirt, paved, and broken rock/Large gravel over seriously sharp edged rock roads/trails. as is, the bike is geared just fine, but on those rare events when i am forced to take a section of faster secondary roads i find that once in 5th, there is no need to shift down for hills, even the steeper ones. I am frankly surprised this little motor has sooo much bottom/mid range torque, and will therefore start upping the gear ratio, once i complete breakin , until i am at least required to drop to fourth on one of the larger hills. As it is I am showing 45 to 50 in 5th at what "feels" like just below the torque peak of the motor.

paulesmann · 02-12-2016, 02:10 AM

75 mpg from the hawk?! that's awesome!!

SeerAtlas · 02-12-2016, 06:20 AM

75? Dunno where that came from, not me. I'm expecting more towards 60-65 without grenading the motor.

SeerAtlas · 02-12-2016, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SeerAtlas

75? Dunno where that came from, not me. I'm expecting more towards 60-65 without grenading the motor.

Oh, mpG

yeah I can see that. No problem. Got the mikuni iand jets in box. Stock carb at 1100 feet or so runs just fine for me.

culcune · 02-12-2016, 08:00 AM

Wolf or Seer--how accurate is the speedo? Chinese bikes are notorious for crappy speedos.

Wolftrax · 02-12-2016, 09:21 AM

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Wolf or Seer--how accurate is the speedo? Chinese bikes are notorious for crappy speedos.

I don't really know. I based my observations on 10% error. So when the speedo says 55 I'm reporting that as 50. This weekend I'll get a GPS comparison.

Wolftrax · 02-12-2016, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SeerAtlas

i have the same as wolf cept currently running a 16 for breakin.
i am in the Ozarks with a lot of curvy, hilly (some quite steep) dirt, paved, and broken rock/Large gravel over seriously sharp edged rock roads/trails. as is, the bike is geared just fine, but on those rare events when i am forced to take a section of faster secondary roads i find that once in 5th, there is no need to shift down for hills, even the steeper ones. I am frankly surprised this little motor has sooo much bottom/mid range torque, and will therefore start upping the gear ratio, once i complete breakin , until i am at least required to drop to fourth on one of the larger hills. As it is I am showing 45 to 50 in 5th at what "feels" like just below the torque peak of the motor.

Double dittos. The roads up here in N Ga are quite similar to the Ozarks. I can drop the Hawk into 5th @ 35 mph and never have to shift, I was thinking this yesterday, DCT automatic, I don't need no automatic.

Wolftrax · 02-13-2016, 03:38 PM

Okie dokie, put a few more miles on the Hawk and have to say I'm really digging this little bike. Wanted to assess the accuracy of the speedometer with the GPS and found at 60mph indicated the GPS said 52.2, 13% error. While I was at it, I figured I might as well see what top speed is on a totally stock bike with 15T/50T gearing. The result:

Wolftrax · 02-13-2016, 03:42 PM

Took the time to swap out the 15T with the 17T and take her for another top speed run over the same course. The best thing about this bike is it's utter simplicity. The hardest part of the swap was putting the cover back on.
The result:

culcune · 02-13-2016, 04:35 PM

No real improvement in mph, but I am guessing, much less engine strain?

Wolftrax · 02-13-2016, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune

No real improvement in mph, but I am guessing, much less engine strain?

Yup,way more relaxed. This bike doesn't make a lot of power at your higher RPM's just al lot of noise. Will try the 45T after carb swap .

culcune · 02-13-2016, 07:20 PM

Looking forward to reading about both. I know we discussed what extras you should carry, but thinking of your carb, you will want jets for the different elevations you will encounter in the mountains in Mexico and C. and S. America.

Forgot to ask--what 45T rear did you get; for what bike is it made for?

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Wolftrax Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Blue Ridge Mtns Ga Posts: 437	Hawk Range One of the main concerns of any overland bike is range(miles/tank). I have about 250 miles on this little gem and am happy to report going the distance shouldn't be a problem. It took 2.057 gallons to cover 156 miles. That's 75.83 MPG on a fully loaded bike(me and about 40lbs of weight in the bags). My tank holds 3.31 of fuel. That's a 250 mile range. I tempted not to change the carb or the sprockets. __________________ Mark 2015 Haosen Hawk 250 2014 CRF250L 2014 CB500X Rally Raid
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02-12-2016, 01:32 AM	#64
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	ditto i have the same as wolf cept currently running a 16 for breakin. i am in the Ozarks with a lot of curvy, hilly (some quite steep) dirt, paved, and broken rock/Large gravel over seriously sharp edged rock roads/trails. as is, the bike is geared just fine, but on those rare events when i am forced to take a section of faster secondary roads i find that once in 5th, there is no need to shift down for hills, even the steeper ones. I am frankly surprised this little motor has sooo much bottom/mid range torque, and will therefore start upping the gear ratio, once i complete breakin , until i am at least required to drop to fourth on one of the larger hills. As it is I am showing 45 to 50 in 5th at what "feels" like just below the torque peak of the motor. __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking
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paulesmann Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 76	75 mpg from the hawk?! that's awesome!! __________________ Paul Mann 2015 Haosen Hawk 1989 Kawasaki EX500 1991 Suzuki DR350
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02-12-2016, 06:20 AM	#66
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	75 75? Dunno where that came from, not me. I'm expecting more towards 60-65 without grenading the motor. __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking
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culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Wolf or Seer--how accurate is the speedo? Chinese bikes are notorious for crappy speedos. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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02-11-2016, 08:51 PM	#62
fishtime9 Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 73	Wolf trax, what modifications and sprockets do you currently have installed, as well how much throttle do you have left when cruising in fifth gear at 55mp/h?
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02-13-2016, 04:35 PM	#73
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	No real improvement in mph, but I am guessing, much less engine strain? __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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02-13-2016, 07:20 PM	#75
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Looking forward to reading about both. I know we discussed what extras you should carry, but thinking of your carb, you will want jets for the different elevations you will encounter in the mountains in Mexico and C. and S. America. Forgot to ask--what 45T rear did you get; for what bike is it made for? __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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