on/off Rat build (with apologies to Doc's dirt rat LOL) - Page 4

gloud · 02-28-2012, 06:30 AM

Jeeze Weld a Mod may get after you lol.. It does mild steel fine, I had to use the right cutters for the hardened stuff. No problem on the hijack.

Back on topic the vapor is supposed to be here today and I ordered some Connectors from Vintage connections. So I will have decent connectors and shielded. So back to fab and wiring this weekend. and then I hope for a test ride to see where I am at before I tear it all down for paint.

FastDoc · 02-28-2012, 12:26 PM

Please let us know all about the Vapor installation. If/when I D/S the YZ I'd like to fit a Vapor.

gloud · 02-29-2012, 11:11 AM

received the Vapor last night, Looks good but the speedo pickup they sent I can't figure out how they want me to mount. (and honestly I don't like the way it will look if I mount it the way I can think of. I have an email into them and in the meantime I ordered a Acewell Direct plug in to a honda XR pickup and I am going to try that. ( they are the competitor to Trailready. vapor)
I am hoping it will be compatible, but I am worried about the calibration. for 20.00 I figured I would try and it is a factory looking install then.

I found some docs on the sensor ( the one from acewell ) and it uses a hall effect sensor, so I don't think it will be compatible with the Vapor...

FastDoc · 02-29-2012, 11:48 AM

Is your TrailTech kit made for your bike or are you adapting one?

gloud · 02-29-2012, 03:11 PM

It is a generic one for an aircooled, drum brake bike like the xr200. they tech dept got back to me with a picture of how to mount it not overly happy with it but I will do it like they say.
I will post up a pic once I get it mounted. I was just hoping for a cleaner installation. everything else seems fine.

gloud · 03-19-2012, 07:11 AM

Got a day in the shop sunday. did some work on the controls and building a mount for the vapor and other controls.

FastDoc · 03-19-2012, 12:49 PM

Awesome looking work. Save the template maybe I'll hire you to make me one for the YZ! :wink:

Weldangrind · 03-19-2012, 01:28 PM

That's a really nice piece of craftsmanship! Do you plan to enclose the backside of the mount? Have you considered using studs to attach the front handlebar clamps, and then nuts to attach the new mount? That makes your mount removable without loosening the clamp bolts, and the mount doesn't bear directly on the clamp. Just a thought.

gloud · 03-19-2012, 02:43 PM

I am happy with it so far. I am debating enclosing the back, I plan on a small fairing so it wouldn't need it. I think I still have the template LOL .
As for the studs possibly. At the least I will likely mill the top of the clamp flat so it sits properly. I got to use my mill to open up the hole underneath the Vapor Instad of hacking it with a file.

I was mostly going for simple, and at the least will build a pigtail off the indicator lights and tie all the wiring to the plate. For the finish I used a palm sander and just made it uniform. I will likely hit it with clear coat when I Finish the tins. (the tank and sidecovers are done just waiting on CC. )

We are fullon in riding weather here, (cool in the am but I have gear) so I am still riding the Yam DT175 as a daily rider but really want the XL on the road. I hope for a test ride this weekend to check my gearing.

SpudRider · 03-19-2012, 03:51 PM

You did a beautiful job on the TT Vapor mount! Thanks for sharing the photos.

Spud

Weldangrind · 03-19-2012, 03:54 PM

The hole underneath the Vapor is an excellent solution for the cables. Did you make the mount out of aluminum?

gloud · 03-19-2012, 06:50 PM

Yea it was an unknown aluminum alloy (soft) from an old sign I had. It is about 3/16th thick. It was nasty before I hit it with a sander. the top two outside lights are going to be the turn indicators, the center blue for high beam and the green on down by the choke (to the left) is for the Neutral indicator. I gave myself a little extra room in case I want to add things to it.

Next time I have it off I will take a pic of the hole and post it.

MICRider · 03-19-2012, 10:17 PM

That dash looks sweet! I can't wait to see the whole bike together

gloud · 03-27-2012, 11:08 AM

Fabbed the new top mount for the engine.

Mounted the new headlight bucket. (12V 7" Vs the stock 6v 5") and have all the wiring done except for the new Vapor.

another shot of the headlight.

I should have the bike ready for the road test and then tear down and paint this next weekend. I spent way too much time rebuilding the rear turn signals. (the wires in the lights where bad, and the ground wires for the mounts where too. )

Once I test it I will be doing a full teardown new bearings, Paint and new cables. Getting there.

FastDoc · 03-27-2012, 12:14 PM

Excellent work. 8)

Amazing how much wiring can go into a simple XR. My Gold Wing must have 50 pounds of wiring!

02-28-2012, 12:26 PM	#47
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Please let us know all about the Vapor installation. If/when I D/S the YZ I'd like to fit a Vapor. __________________ Happy to serve.
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02-29-2012, 11:48 AM	#49
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Is your TrailTech kit made for your bike or are you adapting one? __________________ Happy to serve.
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03-19-2012, 07:11 AM	#51
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	Vapor mounted Got a day in the shop sunday. did some work on the controls and building a mount for the vapor and other controls.
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03-19-2012, 12:49 PM	#52
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Awesome looking work. Save the template maybe I'll hire you to make me one for the YZ! :wink: __________________ Happy to serve.
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03-19-2012, 01:28 PM	#53
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That's a really nice piece of craftsmanship! Do you plan to enclose the backside of the mount? Have you considered using studs to attach the front handlebar clamps, and then nuts to attach the new mount? That makes your mount removable without loosening the clamp bolts, and the mount doesn't bear directly on the clamp. Just a thought. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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02-28-2012, 06:30 AM	#46
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	Jeeze Weld a Mod may get after you lol.. It does mild steel fine, I had to use the right cutters for the hardened stuff. No problem on the hijack. Back on topic the vapor is supposed to be here today and I ordered some Connectors from Vintage connections. So I will have decent connectors and shielded. So back to fab and wiring this weekend. and then I hope for a test ride to see where I am at before I tear it all down for paint.
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02-29-2012, 11:11 AM	#48
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	received the Vapor last night, Looks good but the speedo pickup they sent I can't figure out how they want me to mount. (and honestly I don't like the way it will look if I mount it the way I can think of. I have an email into them and in the meantime I ordered a Acewell Direct plug in to a honda XR pickup and I am going to try that. ( they are the competitor to Trailready. vapor) I am hoping it will be compatible, but I am worried about the calibration. for 20.00 I figured I would try and it is a factory looking install then. I found some docs on the sensor ( the one from acewell ) and it uses a hall effect sensor, so I don't think it will be compatible with the Vapor...
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02-29-2012, 03:11 PM	#50
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	It is a generic one for an aircooled, drum brake bike like the xr200. they tech dept got back to me with a picture of how to mount it not overly happy with it but I will do it like they say. I will post up a pic once I get it mounted. I was just hoping for a cleaner installation. everything else seems fine.
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03-19-2012, 02:43 PM	#54
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	I am happy with it so far. I am debating enclosing the back, I plan on a small fairing so it wouldn't need it. I think I still have the template LOL . As for the studs possibly. At the least I will likely mill the top of the clamp flat so it sits properly. I got to use my mill to open up the hole underneath the Vapor Instad of hacking it with a file. I was mostly going for simple, and at the least will build a pigtail off the indicator lights and tie all the wiring to the plate. For the finish I used a palm sander and just made it uniform. I will likely hit it with clear coat when I Finish the tins. (the tank and sidecovers are done just waiting on CC. ) We are fullon in riding weather here, (cool in the am but I have gear) so I am still riding the Yam DT175 as a daily rider but really want the XL on the road. I hope for a test ride this weekend to check my gearing.
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03-19-2012, 03:51 PM	#55
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	You did a beautiful job on the TT Vapor mount! Thanks for sharing the photos. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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03-19-2012, 03:54 PM	#56
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	The hole underneath the Vapor is an excellent solution for the cables. Did you make the mount out of aluminum? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-19-2012, 06:50 PM	#57
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	Yea it was an unknown aluminum alloy (soft) from an old sign I had. It is about 3/16th thick. It was nasty before I hit it with a sander. the top two outside lights are going to be the turn indicators, the center blue for high beam and the green on down by the choke (to the left) is for the Neutral indicator. I gave myself a little extra room in case I want to add things to it. Next time I have it off I will take a pic of the hole and post it.
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03-19-2012, 10:17 PM	#58
MICRider Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,274	That dash looks sweet! I can't wait to see the whole bike together
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03-27-2012, 11:08 AM	#59
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	More progress. Lights and blinkers and final mount. Fabbed the new top mount for the engine. Mounted the new headlight bucket. (12V 7" Vs the stock 6v 5") and have all the wiring done except for the new Vapor. another shot of the headlight. I should have the bike ready for the road test and then tear down and paint this next weekend. I spent way too much time rebuilding the rear turn signals. (the wires in the lights where bad, and the ground wires for the mounts where too. ) Once I test it I will be doing a full teardown new bearings, Paint and new cables. Getting there.
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03-27-2012, 12:14 PM	#60
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Excellent work. 8) Amazing how much wiring can go into a simple XR. My Gold Wing must have 50 pounds of wiring! __________________ Happy to serve.
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