04-09-2008, 01:10 PM
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I just got an email from a member on here that I need to share with all of you. He is going through a legal dispute with them right now so he wishes to remain anonymous as this is a popular thread. I have FW the email to frostbite and he can vouch for the legitimacy of the email wile keeping the members identity secret. He recently worked for them and he lives in the area. He writes:
From: XXXXXXXXX To: PorterzCustomz Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:43 am Subject: ATV Discounter Glen Barling Quote message Call the owner of ATV Discounter on his cell phone and tell him to stop cheating people out of the bike they want i use to work there and he has been doing the same thing he did to you to many others. The owner of american lifan gave him a smokin deal if he would buy all the gy-2's he had in stock so he did and then he bought 1 gy-5 and took pictures so people think they are getting the 5 and he sends them the 2. Here is his cell phone number xxx-xxx-xxxx and his wife (billing dept) xxx-xxx-xxxx ************************************************** ********* DON"T FALL FOR THE SCAM, DON'T BUY FROM THEM AND MAKE SURE TO WARN OTHERS NOT TO!! IT IS YOUR RESPONCEABILITY AS A MEMBER. -Eric |
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04-09-2008, 01:21 PM
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It is a bait and switch. If this anonymous guy will testify, a whole group of you could have class action lawsuit--I don't know seriously Texas takes false advertising, but this is definitely a case of it! The GY-5 and the GY-2 are two different bikes. I would be pissed off ordering a GY-5 and getting a GY-2 shipped to my house.
And to think that ATVdiscounters tried to insinuate that you were getting a more expensive/better bike!!
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04-09-2008, 01:30 PM
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I wonder if any of their local news teams would be interested in investigating the story.
Tonight at 11 - "Local Business Caught Running Scam!" It might take a bit of luck, and maybe some leg work to give them a jump on the story....but it may prove effective at getting them shut down. Just a thought. 8)
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04-09-2008, 01:30 PM
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Not just insinuate they came out and told me that in the end. And no I think you misunderstood the message, AL is not in on the scam they just sold to ATV D thinking that ATV D would advertise and sell them for what they are GY2's. Thats why they gave them such a cheap price because they were older bikes that they wanted to clear out for the new ones ya know?
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04-09-2008, 04:12 PM
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04-09-2008, 04:13 PM
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Portez, I posted this in another thread, http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...ewtopic&t=3816
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04-09-2008, 04:53 PM
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culcune, You are wrong to assume that we are in on this situation. Do you see SUNL or Roketa anywhere in our brand name? We have nothing to do with retail sales.
On a side note ATVD also has no factory warranty on their vehicles. These were units that were sitting at the back of our warehouse that we had no use for. The GY-2 model has been discontinued for a handful of reasons. Shawn |
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04-09-2008, 05:10 PM
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Shawn, I was wrong to mention it (I edited it out). However, they should not be allowed to mail order your product anymore
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04-09-2008, 05:12 PM
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04-09-2008, 05:30 PM
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All other parts are fully covered from any factory defects for 90 days. Yes! We take pride in every unit we sell, so ATVDiscounter offers a 12-month engine warranty on all units. Our competitors will try to charge you for a 12-month engine warranty, but why should you pay for a warranty that the dealers receive for free? In the first quote, they really don't say who is covering the warranty, but in the second quote, they really seem to be saying that A. Lifan is covering the warranty. BTW, this ad is still on ebay (I pulled the quotes right from there right now) Porterz, someone still owes you a new battery, too, according to their shipping policy: ATVDiscounter offers complimentary freight insurance for all deliveries on every product we sell. If any product is damaged in any way, we will send you a replacement part right away. We handle all shipping damage claims for you, while our competitors make you handle it yourself.
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04-09-2008, 05:37 PM
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Well, We cannot really do anything about the way they do business.... but we can stop their supply. I'm not sure how they get off on doing this to people but it is really irritating!
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04-09-2008, 05:41 PM
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Something interesting to me.Would ford or any other car maker sell to honest johns used cars on the corner ? Why wouldn't those bikes sell to established good Lifan dealers at a good price?I don't know how many dealers there are in this country,but wouldn't it be a good way to say thanks for being a dealer for A.L?
I said it once and I'll say it again no disrespect intended but the bottem line comes down to $$$$$ not Devotion. |
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04-09-2008, 05:50 PM
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We honestly sold those bikes wish the intention of them selling them as "offroad only" That particular unit was never built for highway use and developed viberation issues when an in-experienced rider would ride while sitting on the red line for long periods of time.
We figured that we would take a loss on the bikes just to clear up all the extra warehouse space that we could. We never intended for them to sell online but to sell locally in the Dallas metroplex. Now that we know what type of characters these people are I'm fairly sure we will not continue to do business with them. Shawn |
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04-09-2008, 05:51 PM
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