Loncin RE250 6 speed - Page 4

Baskt_Case · 09-27-2019, 10:33 PM

I am very interested in this. Would love to have this paired with a Nibbi.

NzBrakelathes · 09-29-2019, 10:26 PM

Split motor into couple pieces
Gear box import
Head and cylinder import
So it’s all parts and not an engine that requires epa regulations

Deryl · 09-30-2019, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NzBrakelathes

Split motor into couple pieces
Gear box import
Head and cylinder import
So it’s all parts and not an engine that requires epa regulations

I'm in. Your our guy, when can we expect them to be on your ebay page?

NzBrakelathes · 10-01-2019, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Deryl

I'm in. Your our guy, when can we expect them to be on your ebay page?

Ebay’s fee 12.5%
No way

**JerryHawk250** · 10-01-2019, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Deryl

You think ebay would refund your money if it was denied at customs? If there was no risk that would be sweet. It is listed with free shipping to here so either they know it will work or it is a scam and they get your money and the motor back if customs returns it to the sender.

I think we have a winner.

Here's a reply from the Ebay dealer. when I asked if they shipped to the USA do they have any issues with getting through customs.

"Dear Friend,
Sure , no problem my friend. We delivered many to USA every month

Kindly contact if any other further information needed.
RGDS!

James"

They also replied.
"Dear Friend,

More information for you. If the engine can't get through the custom, it would be returned or rejected by custom, Which means it can't be delivered. If the engine can't be delivered successfully to your address, your money has to be returned to your account. You would be 100% safe in such business. Please relax and have confidence on our profession

RGDS!

James"

Deryl · 10-01-2019, 08:46 PM

Anyone know of the quickest way to destroy a hawk motor? Mine is not even broke in yet so its kind of hard to justify buying a new motor! I have a feeling my hawk is going to be too reliable to do this anytime soon. I will probably have the most reliable hawk ever produced. Kind of funny because when the motor finally blows I will be grinning ear to ear!

**JerryHawk250** · 10-01-2019, 09:17 PM

Don't get your hopes up too high. Over 7000 mile on my Hawk and still running strong. Lol But why try to destroy the engine. Just order the engine and sell the hawk engine. There's always somebody needing and engine or parts on here.

NzBrakelathes · 10-01-2019, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

I think we have a winner.

Here's a reply from the Ebay dealer. when I asked if they shipped to the USA do they have any issues with getting through customs.

"Dear Friend,
Sure , no problem my friend. We delivered many to USA every month

Kindly contact if any other further information needed.
RGDS!

James"

They also replied.
"Dear Friend,

More information for you. If the engine can't get through the custom, it would be returned or rejected by custom, Which means it can't be delivered. If the engine can't be delivered successfully to your address, your money has to be returned to your account. You would be 100% safe in such business. Please relax and have confidence on our profession

RGDS!

James"

Gotta love the Chinese honesty n writing huh
Yeah words easily spoken etc

**JerryHawk250** · 10-02-2019, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NzBrakelathes

Gotta love the Chinese honesty n writing huh
Yeah words easily spoken etc

I think I can trust this dealer. Member since: Aug 11, 2011 with 100% positive feedback. I don't think Ebay would of let then hang around this long if they weren't legit.

Baskt_Case · 10-02-2019, 09:27 AM

The video says 68 MPH on that particular bike, so I wonder what could be reasonably expected after the usual China mods. My current absolute maximum is 69.

Also, would it be more beneficial to get the one that includes the wiring harness for $718?

And I wonder how much a used OEM Hawk motor is worth.

**JerryHawk250** · 10-02-2019, 10:01 AM

Top speed with this engine won't be much different than the hawk in stock form. Maybe 1 hp more. Note the large size of that rear sprocket on that bike. Geared low so 68mph will be the fastest it will go with that gear ratio. The difference would be with 6 speed is the wider range on the gear ratio since 6th gear is a 2nd overdrive. You will be able to use a lower gear ratio for off-road and not lose top end because of the 6th gear. You would be getting the best of both worlds. Mod wise you can get more HP from porting and decking plus being it's a OHC engine you could get a custom cam made. I wouldn't be surprised if a Hotcam for a Honda CB engine would fit. I know on a CB200 engine I had it made a huge improvement. But without having that engine sitting in front of me to take measurements I have no way to know.

NzBrakelathes · 10-02-2019, 10:18 AM

Horses are more available in the 249cc air cooled engine
Just no 6th gear.
At that cost etc you’d be better off with the Apollo bike with another 223cc OHC engine in it and I’d think that engine be available in the USA if the sellers weren’t so greedy
I posted long ago - engines $300ish DHL $325ish plus some profit etc

Baskt_Case · 10-02-2019, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NzBrakelathes

Horses are more available in the 249cc air cooled engine.

Forgive me for being new to China Riders, but is there a 249cc motor that is a direct bolt-in on the Hawk?

EDIT: I see CG/CB motors that might fit but seems still need substantial modifications or just cost prohibitive.

The Loncin looked mildly attractive at $700 considering it might be a direct swap, nearly plug and play. But without real boost in HP, my money would be better spent on a whole different bike.

This would indeed be a fine replacement for a blown motor, but not a worthy upgrade in my eyes.

Merlin · 10-02-2019, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

I think we have a winner.

Here's a reply from the Ebay dealer. when I asked if they shipped to the USA do they have any issues with getting through customs.

"Dear Friend,
Sure , no problem my friend. We delivered many to USA every month

Kindly contact if any other further information needed.
RGDS!

James"

They also replied.
"Dear Friend,

More information for you. If the engine can't get through the custom, it would be returned or rejected by custom, Which means it can't be delivered. If the engine can't be delivered successfully to your address, your money has to be returned to your account. You would be 100% safe in such business. Please relax and have confidence on our profession

RGDS!

James"

could you post a link to the ebay ad? Thanks

Megadan · 10-02-2019, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baskt_Case

This would indeed be a fine replacement for a blown motor, but not a worthy upgrade in my eyes.

That depends on the person. I agree that if I blew a motor this would be a good replacement for sure, but as you argued, why not get a new bike?

I see it as a worthy upgrade for 2 reasons. A 6th gear allowing for way better off road sprocket gearing while still allowing the bike to be street ridden like a Hawk with much taller sprockets. While the power difference seems small ( about 2hp ) the CB engines also utilize their full RPM range better.

Also, a fact not brought up about the RE250 that I think gives it a third reason is it's gear driven counter balancer. Yes, the RE250 is counterbalanced, and unlike the CG counter balancer is not chain driven nor does it require a big tumor off the front of the motor. This means it fits where a non balanced CG will fit.

10-01-2019, 09:17 PM	#52
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,573	Don't get your hopes up too high. Over 7000 mile on my Hawk and still running strong. Lol But why try to destroy the engine. Just order the engine and sell the hawk engine. There's always somebody needing and engine or parts on here. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel Last edited by JerryHawk250; 10-02-2019 at 07:41 AM.
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10-02-2019, 09:27 AM	#55
Baskt_Case Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Springfield, KY Posts: 83	The video says 68 MPH on that particular bike, so I wonder what could be reasonably expected after the usual China mods. My current absolute maximum is 69. Also, would it be more beneficial to get the one that includes the wiring harness for $718? And I wonder how much a used OEM Hawk motor is worth. __________________ 2018 Hawk - Nibbi PE30, Nibbi Intake, UNI Filter, Ebay Exhaust, NGK 4929 (non-Iridium), 428 D.I.D. X-Ring, 15/40 Sprockets, Walmart AGM Battery, IMS Shifter, Full LED Lighting, Digital Cluster, CSC Swingarm Pin, Modified Chain Adjusters, Upgraded Wheel Bearings MPH Cruise, MPG
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10-02-2019, 10:01 AM	#56
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,573	Top speed with this engine won't be much different than the hawk in stock form. Maybe 1 hp more. Note the large size of that rear sprocket on that bike. Geared low so 68mph will be the fastest it will go with that gear ratio. The difference would be with 6 speed is the wider range on the gear ratio since 6th gear is a 2nd overdrive. You will be able to use a lower gear ratio for off-road and not lose top end because of the 6th gear. You would be getting the best of both worlds. Mod wise you can get more HP from porting and decking plus being it's a OHC engine you could get a custom cam made. I wouldn't be surprised if a Hotcam for a Honda CB engine would fit. I know on a CB200 engine I had it made a huge improvement. But without having that engine sitting in front of me to take measurements I have no way to know. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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09-27-2019, 10:33 PM	#46
Baskt_Case Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Springfield, KY Posts: 83	I am very interested in this. Would love to have this paired with a Nibbi.
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09-29-2019, 10:26 PM	#47
NzBrakelathes Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hell Posts: 2,408	Split motor into couple pieces Gear box import Head and cylinder import So it’s all parts and not an engine that requires epa regulations
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10-01-2019, 08:46 PM	#51
Deryl Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 68	Anyone know of the quickest way to destroy a hawk motor? Mine is not even broke in yet so its kind of hard to justify buying a new motor! I have a feeling my hawk is going to be too reliable to do this anytime soon. I will probably have the most reliable hawk ever produced. Kind of funny because when the motor finally blows I will be grinning ear to ear!
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10-02-2019, 10:18 AM	#57
NzBrakelathes Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hell Posts: 2,408	Horses are more available in the 249cc air cooled engine Just no 6th gear. At that cost etc you’d be better off with the Apollo bike with another 223cc OHC engine in it and I’d think that engine be available in the USA if the sellers weren’t so greedy I posted long ago - engines $300ish DHL $325ish plus some profit etc
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