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[culcune]

Originally Posted by warrior91

edit: attrocious spelling

What are you smoking? :wink:

[chinariderinthesky]

"Justice can't be blind if the guy with the most expensive lawyer always wins"

-AMEN

[warrior91]

Originally Posted by culcune

What are you smoking? :wink:

Too much T

[SpeedSouth]

Originally Posted by kmoore

ok im just going to shut up and bow out gracefully yall have a nice day

For the record, I wasn't trying to remove you from the discussion.

I just want to see a better argument against decriminalization, if one exists.



And I'm surely no hero...hehe...but thanks for the vote! :P

[kmoore]

i have never once said i was against decriminalization or legalization. all im saying we need to keep the new stupid laws from becoming laws then worry about the old laws easier to fight it before it becomes law than after.

as for knowing biden nope not really i think he was the wrong choice for vp in the first place

and didnt vote for obama too young and no expirence

as for macain and palin they never stood a chance since the past 8 years of bush made it impossible for a republican to win any way

and the slippery slope comment was reguarding this country in general.. this country is going to piss fast. unemployment is way up due to outsourcing... all the polititions want to take care of everyone else and piss on us... the ones who elected them, the ones who pay their salarys..

yes i ride a forigen made bike because it was cheap, cheap made cheap quality, and overall a pos. why because i cant afford to buy american made products... why because all the good paying jobs are now in india, mexico, and other countries that will work for 1/8 th of what the american will.. so now im stuck neglecting my family workin 3rds in a -10 degree freezer stocking frozen foods at sams club for 9.00 an hour.

but ill stop rambling and shut up now

[IronFist]

kmoore: "yes i ride a forigen made bike because it was cheap, cheap made cheap quality, and overall a pos."

:roll: Ouch. Sorry to hear about the freezer. $9 is what I made as a painter, 40 feet up, baking in the sun, on the side of a building. Or when the wind picks up and your ladder starts moving sideways, I start thinking that my work is worth more than 9$ an hour.

Especially when the guy I'm working for went to play golf and made $9000 talking on the phone while drinking beers at the club house. Then takes his BMW for detailing and cleaning at $149/H.

The guy who cleans the bmw makes 140$/h, detailing his $80,000 car.
I get 9$/h, painting his $4,000,000 home. :?

Now as soon as I say that there is something wrong with the price of labor, everyone will scream Socialism. So I won't.

But I don't think $9 / hour is worth risking my life for. I have taken a 16-20 foot fall for that kind of pay. If I'm gonna hit the pavement at terminal velocity, I'd rather have it happen when I'm doing something I love, and that's not Socialism.
My chinabike was cheap, but not a POS. :wink:

[AZ200cc]

America only offers one dirtbike anyways and they are overpriced and heavy
I make Ten an hour plus bonus...And right now I am happy to get it. PLenty of people who used to make a lot more who are homeless now.
The same one who treated me like a lesser human being because of my China bike or my job or my home are now wishing they have what I have because they lost it all. Never forget to be thankfull for the little favors in life. I had a China bike...and anyone who is bikeless was happy to ride her and came back smiling, And she still is running around....Honda quality? Hell no but not a POS by any means. :wink:

[chinariderinthesky]

in less than a week, 2/3 of out potato processing plant will be closing and im out of a job along with 64 other hard working americans... outsourcing is a b---h and the problem is not going to CHANGE. pot will be decriminalized when the "younger"generation gets older and elects someone that will make a CHANGE... or they will conform to society's standards and nothing will ever CHANGE.

[SpeedSouth]

Originally Posted by chinariderinthesky

in less than a week, 2/3 of out potato processing plant will be closing and im out of a job along with 64 other hard working americans... outsourcing is a b---h and the problem is not going to CHANGE. pot will be decriminalized when the "younger"generation gets older and elects someone that will make a CHANGE... or they will conform to society's standards and nothing will ever CHANGE.

IMO, that's part of the problem.

The younger generation is continuously lied to about the effects of pot, and unless they see firsthand that they have been lied to, and are willing to accept that they've been lied to (not too common these days, IMO) then they will simply repeat the same lies to their kids...and so on.


Our generation is the children of last generation, and we should be the ones electing a leader who is willing to challenge the status quo, yet we still have the discussion swept under the carpet. Our government is not eager to admit to it's citizens that they've been full of shit for the last 70 years. :(



I agree that our country has gone down hill in recent years, but it has nothing to do with the "slippery slope" agrument against pot. Freeing up recources that are currently spent finding and prosecuting non-violent pot smokers would help stop the slide of this country, IMO....not make it worse.

And I generally agree that stopping new laws is easier than changing old law, but I do not think that's a good excuse for leaving older, irrational laws on the books. It would be one thing if the older laws were not enforced....like some of the older, silly laws someone posted here a few months ago.

Yes, leave those laws alone because they don't hurt anyone....but the stupid pot laws RUIN people's lives, and I find that unacceptable.



Edit - Here's a quote from the link I posted earlier...and a part of why I think these laws can't just be ignored much longer.

"Now a marijuana smoker is arrested at the rate of 1 every 37 seconds and almost 100 marijuana arrests per hour."

Think about that.

[Alaskan-Dad]

I would like to take a moment ant thank DuPont for the Marijuana laws that we have today!
Thanks to the DuPont family for the legacy you have created and for the good people your laws have imprisoned!
Thanks DuPont!

[IronFist]

More listeria at Maple Leaf. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/...n.html?ref=rss

You gotta like this line, "We have the most stringent protocol now, so of course we're getting positive tests," Smith said


U.S. officials were concerned the plant was not properly monitoring food temperatures and also noted that an employee's work boots were found coated with "residues of product from the previous day's production," according to audit documents.

What we need is less taxes, less government oversight, smaller government. Big business obviously has our best interests covered. It's just a few bad apples trying to get richer. It's not their fault. These guys are trying hard to keep as much meat flowing through that plant as they safely can. Maybe even a little more.

[chinariderinthesky]

thats why we need to start getting more "product" to the kids!!!! haha, i think a tobacco company exec said something like that too! hahahahaha. i believe that there are enough "users" (at least in "pro pot" states) under 30 that COULD make a difference IF they put the BONG down and voted for somone who is not aan @$$HAT.... but then again, WE ARE BEING LIED TO... im starting to believe as i type this that things might never change.


i would be willing to buy my "product" with a 100%tax on it.
i would be willing to pay for a "pot license" yearly.
i would be willing to buy my "product" through a government-regulated facility...
that right there would make my "hobby" a verry expensive one... but one that wouldn't get me put behind bars for smokin a bowl after work at home.


oh, and everyone that knows me, knows that I HAVE HORRIBLE GRAMMAR. don't let my typing ability affect your position on this subject by sayin "that pothed is so hi that he can't even type!"

im not high, im at work waiting to be laid off "due to the economy"

Tminus 6 days...

[warrior91]

I quit my job on the 15 of Dec./08...Boss was an arshole.
Start new job this coming monday ...$5 hr more....but I must commute/hotel....but get paid milage one way,+ $100 day sub, and knock off work @ 3pm fridays... have welder ,will travel... Saskatchewan...sucking hind teat for SO long...now we are the Canadian Powerhouse of employment. Come to Sask for some work...$9 is about min wage here.

As for Marijuana laws and young people affecting change...I did vote for the Green party in the last Provincial and Federal election.
I also take it upon myself to re-educate ignorant people...even if it is as simple as telling them about the book "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Dr. Grinspoon.

[SpeedSouth]

I have to say....I think one of the biggest problems I have with the laws against marijuana is that NOBODY really belives they are effective.

It's like everyone is sitting on a bus, stuck in the mud....tires just a spinning...and everyone looking at everyone else and saying "we're on the way now...should arrive at our destination soon!". Yea, okay.

It is as useless as prohibition was in the 1930's...yet everyone (in a position to make changes) pretends this is somehow different.



Insanity - repeating the same steps, expecting different results. :roll:



Sorry for the somewhat random little rant, but that bugs me to no end.

[suprf1y]

What we need is less taxes, less government oversight, smaller government.

I could not have said it better myself.
You must be as disappointed as I am, paying as much as we do, supporting such a huge bureaucracy, and still getting nothing for our money. The best thing for this country would be a huge reduction in both gov, and taxes.