New Zongshen RX3 (ZS250GY-3) Dual Sport

[2LZ]

Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas

The article is titled "Impressions", not a shoot out. Rob owns both of the bikes in the article and he's sharing his impressions, not pontificating.

I don't see anything wrong with the article nor do I see the bikes as "vastly different, simply different breeds of the same species, kind of like evaluating whether an Arabian or a Clydesdale is more suited for a particular equine task.

Sorry Jay, apparently I wasn't clear. As previously stated, I thought it was a very good review. I understand that he was using the Beemer simply as the opposite end of the spectrum (or different breed) in the ADV class. Nothing more. I enjoyed the article very much, especially coming from someone who owns both, just not test riding both.

My second sentence was simply to state that in many magazines and reviews today (which I should have noted), I see them "comparing" or shoot out vastly different bikes these days, as opposed to when I was a kid. My apologies for any misunderstanding. Being critical of the article was the furthest thing from my mind.

Nice pics Joe, thank you for sharing.

[Jay In Milpitas]

Originally Posted by 2LZ

Sorry Jay, apparently I wasn't clear. As previously stated, I thought it was a very good review.

blah blah blah,,,,,,,,

Nice pics Joe, thank you for sharing.

Cool, let's have a beer.
No beer smiley thingy.

[BlackBike]

CSC Joe takes such good photos that I'm sure that fuel station would be honored to use that pic in an ad.

[CSCDude]

Originally Posted by BlackBike

CSC Joe takes such good photos that I'm sure that fuel station would be honored to use that pic in an ad.

It's hard to take a bad photo of a beautiful woman or a CSC motorcycle.

Thanks for the kind words.

[2LZ]

Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas

Cool, let's have a beer.
No beer smiley thingy.

Well if you ever make it up to the Volcano area, I got first round! :-)

[BlackBike]

It just looks like it was a purposefully staged ad photo rather than a true impromptu pic.

Now that you seem to be in one place on the earth for the moment, explain this...young man??



We all have your blog on speed dial around here.

[1cylinderwonder]

Did you see the new 2018 Suzuki GSX250R that Suzuki is releasing for sale in the United States? It's a liquid cooled parallel twin with 8 valves. No mention of horsepower or torque figures. Selling price is suppose to be $4,499.00.
Top speed appears to be around 85 to 90 mph.
The pricing is approaching the affordable selling price of the CSC RX3. I hope CSC doesn't raise the MSRP of the RX3, it could cut into their sales.
It appears that the smaller displacement, smaller size and less expensive motorcycle market in the U.S.A. is expanding. I guess everybody doesn't need a 1000cc 120 horsepower commuting motorcycle!
It'll will be interesting, and fun, watching what other bikes enter the smaller size motorcycle market.
Stay tuned!

[Jay In Milpitas]

Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder

Did you see the new 2018 Suzuki GSX250R that Suzuki is releasing for sale in the United States? It's a liquid cooled parallel twin with 8 valves. No mention of horsepower or torque figures. Selling price is suppose to be $4,499.00.
Top speed appears to be around 85 to 90 mph.
The pricing is approaching the affordable selling price of the CSC RX3. I hope CSC doesn't raise the MSRP of the RX3, it could cut into their sales.
It appears that the smaller displacement, smaller size and less expensive motorcycle market in the U.S.A. is expanding. I guess everybody doesn't need a 1000cc 120 horsepower commuting motorcycle!
It'll will be interesting, and fun, watching what other bikes enter the smaller size motorcycle market.
Stay tuned!

The GW250 is several hundred cheaper, uses the same engine and has better ergonomics. Neither come with luggage and you have to take them to the dealer for service to maintain the warranty.

[1cylinderwonder]

Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas

You have to take them to the dealer for service to maintain the warranty.

This is a myth that is perpetrated by the “Dealer Network”!
The dealer, manufacturer, would have to prove that lack of any service actually caused a failure. Manufacturing errors or dealer misdeeds cause most of the after-sale problems. I’ve had to correct misaligned wheels, too tight or loose chain tension, incorrect clutch play, missing nuts, bolts, & screws, under filled oil level, etc on my new bikes.
SO DON’T COUNT ON DEALER PREP & SERVICE TO BE CORRECT!

[AdventureDad]

Seems the same power as ours. There’s a very stagnant thread on advrider about it. Something like 8 pages while the Versys 300 thread is huge. Odd...guess it’s way more performance for the same price. Heck, I want one (Versys) after reading on it.

[Jay In Milpitas]

There has been talk about the new BMW 310GS being competition for our bike. Here is one person's machine and a start on what she has done to "make it better".

[vickytulla]

I did a bit of home work in my country down here in Pakistan; for my RX3 it took 4000$ from booking in factory to finally getting it registered and legal to roam arround the whole country.. This does not include fat offfroad tires and some tweaks I did later in the longer run including the CSC oem center stand and things like that..

Where as intial Cost of import and getting it registered a BMWGS310 was 9000$ (estimated) and putting Panniers, trunks, crash cage/gaurds, also changng to Daul sports tires instead of those sporty looking ones (which were in package that time - without rally raid)... would drill a whole in my pocket, I would prefer to import a slightly used F800 with all things putted by previous owner from europe or some where in roughly same amount of funds.

Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas

There has been talk about the new BMW 310GS being competition for our bike. Here is one person's machine and a start on what she has done to "make it better".

[2LZ]

I'm a little surprised that for starting at 6 grand, the suspension was marginal. We got marginal suspension for far less.

I wonder who makes the motor?

[1cylinderwonder]

I don’t think so. To answer 2LZ, the engine is made in India, as is the whole bike, using machinery made by BMW in Germany, and then shipped to India for assembly and production.
I waited over two years to see, touch and ride the G310 in California. When I finally did ride the bike I was really unimpressed with the ergonomics and the performance. The rider’s cockpit is very crowded and cramped, especially if you’re very big and tall. The engine vibrations and roughness is too much. The performance, lacking.
After my test riding, I stopped at another dealership and purchased a Honda CB500X. Much better of everything than the G310.
Your results may vary!
Good luck.
1CW

[jbfla]

Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder

......."
After my test riding, I stopped at another dealership and purchased a Honda CB500X. Much better of everything than the G310........
1CW

1CW, I test rode the G310R when it came out, and was similarly unimpressed.

I haven't ridden the 310GS, but have 4 friends that have purchased one. They like it.

A much better choice for me was the Honda CB500F that I am in the process of changing into a 500X.

jb