Coleman CT200U

[ben2go]

Originally Posted by SamM

I’ve seen the CT100U for $125 at Walmart but not the CT200U.

SamM

I found two of the CT200U at a walmart a little way away from me back over winter. They sold before I could get there. The manager said his store wouldn't carry any more power sports type vehicles. He said people buy them, trash them in two weeks, and bring them back for multiple exchanges or for a full refund.

[SamM]

Wow, that’s an awesome price. I’ve never seen them sell for that around here. Somebody got a great deal.

SamM

[SamM]

Here is a small update on the CT200U. I have decided to use a small Kohler 196cc 2000 Series 6.5hp engine on the Coleman until I purchase a few more parts for the Hemi Predator. The Kohler engine is small and weighs 28lbs which is a lot less than a Predator. I bought a second Hemi Predator 212cc engine that I will build for this Coleman. My first rebuilt Hemi will go into my ‘new to me’ Fox Thunderbolt mini-cycle. Clear as mud, right. Basically, I bought 2 Hemis and both bikes are getting Hemi engines. The Kohler will be used as a spare if the Coleman Hemi takes a dump on me.

The Hemi engine for the Coleman CT200U is getting an ARC billet flywheel, an ARC billet rod and a CL-1 high-torque camshaft for increased reliability. A .650” overbored stock carburetor, jet kit, a gutted and vented airbox, a new stainless steel valve kit, chromoly pushrods, and a high-flow K&N oiled air filter will increase the airflow. A gutted stock muffler will also help it out. This will keep the engine more compact and looking stock. It will also have an ARC billet/double bearing side cover, the TAV30 CVT (pictured) and sidecover and head studs. Some of these parts still need to be purchased. The engine build will delay getting the bike finished, so the Kohler will be used until I get the engine built.

Next week, I will be painting the frame and forks. The new steel for the frame is on the way. Should be here Monday. The frame will be stretched 10 or 12”. A jackshaft will be added to the new stretched frame to help gear down the bike. The disc brakes might not be installed on this bike. The drums are sealed and should stay fairly clean. No need for discs. This keeps it a little more simple, because the front drum conversion has already been done.

Here are a couple pictures of the Kohler engine, the front brake, adjustable handlebars and Carlisle Trail Wolf tires. It still needs bar risers and plastic for the mud flaps. I will also fab a basket behind the seat for my dog, Augie.

Thanks for looking! More next week.

SamM

[Weldangrind]

This thread brings me so much joy.

[SamM]

Thanks Weldangrind. This bike is great. I really enjoy it and can’t wait to be riding it.

Just be patient and watch to see what happens to it. A new front suspension is being worked out for the CT200U. The suspension seat from a Rokon Trailbreaker could also be used to make this bike a lot better. This is an ever evolving project. I would not rule anything out for it. Keeping the bike usable and making it more usable is the only priority.

These are just the last few thoughts that I have had. I see guys on Youtube building some great mini bikes. I feel that I can do something with this that will be interesting.

SamM

[Darkrider]

Nice to see more progress on this! The Tote Gote is a no go for me as it turns out it got scrapped long ago. Might go looking for an old trike with no engine in it over the winter.

[pete]

Dam you....
You have got me thinking... i have a Dinili 3/4 size 4 wheeler with a dead engine
(can't get bits)...
one of these 6.5hp motors would fit in it quite well.. even found a local surplyer
that has a 7hp with a 2:1 reduction box that also has a centifugle clutch in it that
runs in oil ===> https://www.trademe.co.nz/business-f...1443877074.htm

PS..... Weld.... close & delete this thread before I spend more money , I will
pretend I never read it....




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[SamM]

Hey pete,
Just go for it. There are so many parts available for the clone engines, it’s crazy. Sounds like a great project.

The steel for my frame will be here today. I hope to have the frame mocked up and ready to weld on Tuesday. Later this Winter, I’d like to modify the leading link suspension on my Fox Thunderbolt to work on the CT200U. The new shocks for that suspension arrived Saturday. The Coleman seat will be made into a suspension seat to smooth out the ride. I’ll be posting pictures this week.

SamM

[SamM]

Here’s the front end from a Fox Thunderbolt that will be going onto the CT200U sometime this Winter. The Coleman needs a front suspension. The Fox leading link looks like the perfect solution to me. I’m looking for a way to widen and mount it. New metal clamps will be easy to fab from 1/4” plate. It will be widened to accept the CT200U wheel and new brake system.

SamM

[Weldangrind]

Originally Posted by pete

PS..... Weld.... close & delete this thread before I spend more money , I will
pretend I never read it....

Ha! Now I'm going to make sure you build this project! You know you need to do it.

[SamM]

We now have a semi-mocked up frame. The new tubing has been tack welded into place. I cut the 4’ section of 7/8” tubing into (4) 12” pieces. The 5/8” tubing was cut into 4” pieces and inserted to align everything. There is still a little wiggle room to fine tune everything tomorrow. The frame will be measured, squared and then, the final welding will be done. You can tell by the pictures that the fine tuning is yet to be one. I’m very confident that I can align and square the frame tomorrow.

The rear wheel and associated parts will be added before the final welding to help square it. The frame now has plenty of room for the jackshaft to gear the bike down. It looks a lot longer now but this will give me more stability on the hills and room to haul extra equipment. The bike is finally coming together.

Very excited!

SamM

[pete]

you will beable to put a tractor wheel in the ass end now...


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[SamM]

Today, the new tubes were aligned a little better and tacked into place. Everything is looking good. The frame is a little out of square but not bad. About 1/8” out. I’ll try to fix it but honestly, I could live with it, as is. The frame will be secured to a bigger table, clamped into place, leveled, squared and the finish welding will be done there. The next step will be cross braces. I have some 1” square tubing for that. The frame will be reinforced at the bottom with steel plate for the jack shaft. The top will get the same type steel plate. The stock seat will be replaced with a tractor seat. This will make more room to haul things.

SamM

[Adjuster]

Is that the permanent placement of the motor?



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[SamM]

Yes, but this is not the Hemi Predator 212cc engine that I am building for the bike. This is a small Kohler 196cc 6.5hp engine that would be used as a spare in the case of a problem with the Hemi.

The engine is placed on the stock engine plate that came with Coleman. I did move it as far forward as possible.

SamM