04-27-2016, 11:09 AM | #31 |
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 51
|
Anybody want to split a set with me? I'll pay for shipping to you.
|
|
04-27-2016, 11:56 AM | #32 | |
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Arvada, CO
Posts: 1,004
|
Quote:
Looking back, when I had the 35W stock lamp in my original 2015 headlight, going down the canyons at night was scary. I had no light to the sides and could not see anything on the roadside. Even roadsigns were dim. The silverstar helped by providing more light overall, but the 2015 headlight design simply doesn't project light to the sides. When I upgraded to the CREE LED with the 2015.5 reflector, everything got better. It projected at least as far as my previous silverstar in the 2015 reflector and provided an excellent wide beam. However, with the CREE on low beam, other drivers frequently flashed their high beams at me, but I couldn't aim it any lower without pointing the low beam at the pavement. Now, with the GENNSI in the 2015.5 housing, the beam pattern is slightly less full than the CREE but just as wide. Thanks to the low beam cutoff, I can aim it straight ahead as intended by DOT, illuminating distant road much better than the CREE on low beam and just as well as the CREE on high beam. The GENNSI in the old 2015 housing is better than the stock 35W lamp. But if you've already melted the housing with a 55W halogen, I don't know if it's worth switching to the GENNSI. On the other hand, the 2015.5 headlight is such a huge improvement, I have to recommend it. It eliminates the shadows from the forward beam and extends light to both sides. It really makes a difference.
__________________
Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol Last edited by detours; 04-27-2016 at 05:04 PM. Reason: Clarity between the 2015 and 2015.5 headlight |
|
|
04-27-2016, 12:00 PM | #33 |
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Arvada, CO
Posts: 1,004
|
Headlamp Summary
Reflector Housing Summary
__________________
Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol |
|
04-27-2016, 12:01 PM | #34 |
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: White Mtns. NH
Posts: 488
|
__________________
2016 Versys 650 LT, 2015 RX3 Red, 2011 Ural GearUp, |
|
04-27-2016, 02:16 PM | #35 |
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Berthoud, CO
Posts: 205
|
Detours - you have confused me a bit; in one of your posts you refer to the 2016 reflector. Is that referring to the 2015.5?
Point of clarification: CREE is a manufacturer of LED chips, I am pretty sure that they do not manufacture light bulbs. The various manufacturers of bulbs use the CREE chips and advertise that because the chips are one of the best. So, in identifying the LED that didn't work well, no low beam cut-off, we need a manufacturer's name. BTW, the Genssi Elite bulb uses Philip LED chips.
__________________
Dan CSC RX3 Cyclone, CSC TT250, Moto Guzzi V7 II, KLR650 |
|
04-27-2016, 02:25 PM | #36 |
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Arvada, CO
Posts: 1,004
|
Hey redhawk,
Sorry for the confusion. The new headlight design came out in the 2nd half of 2015 when the bikes were first sold in Canada. This 2015.5 design has been continued into 2016. I've edited 2016 to say 2015.5 to keep my references consistent. You're right about CREE being an LED chip maker, not a headlight maker. But since I forgot the brand name of mine, I just called it a CREE lamp.
__________________
Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol Last edited by detours; 04-27-2016 at 05:21 PM. |
|
05-04-2016, 04:35 PM | #37 |
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Berthoud, CO
Posts: 205
|
Detours,
I'm in the process of installing the Gennsi LED and am struggling a bit. 1. where did you install the "power supply"? Your photo in an early post looks like you fitted it inside the shell. I have not been able to find room for it inside the shell; however I cannot see in there as well because I cut a 2.5" hole with a holes saw. Comments: 2. I was unable to unscrew the set screw holding the heatsink; I finally looked in the hole with a flashlight - there was no set screw. Figured out that the heatsink was screwed on. 3. Before I figured out the heatsink I removed the tri-tab mounting plate so I could put the rubber seal and locking ring on. One set screw had not been tightened at all, and both stripped in the hex socket when I snugged them up, and I was being gentle. 4. The wide tab at the top of the mounting plate is not as wide as the OEM and the locater in the reflector shell. This allows some rotational movement of the lamp. 5. Where did you set the lamp in the mounting plate, rotation wise. Mine came at one mark from the last mark. Edit: Does the power supply get hot/warm. That might be a problem if it is inside the shell.
__________________
Dan CSC RX3 Cyclone, CSC TT250, Moto Guzzi V7 II, KLR650 |
|
05-04-2016, 05:13 PM | #38 | |
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Arvada, CO
Posts: 1,004
|
Quote:
2. Yeah, the whole heatsink screws on and off. The set screws are to lock the lamp in the desired rotation. 3. My set screws were ok. sorry yours stripped out Yes, the order of installation is LED lamp (without heatsink), locking ring, headlight boot, heatsink. 4. I didn't notice any rotational movement once installed. I'll check my installation again tonight. FYI, I have the 2015.5 reflector ... which one do you have? 5. I used the stock rotation and it was correct, but I don't know if they are all set the same at the factory. I'll check my rotation when I get home and try to get a pic.
__________________
Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol |
|
|
05-04-2016, 07:10 PM | #39 | |
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Berthoud, CO
Posts: 205
|
Quote:
I had your #3 figured out - that was logical. I noticed that the locater on the reflector for the top tab was a bit to the right from vertical. I did a bit of a web search to try to figure out if that was normal - did not find any info. My suspicion is that my reflector (2015.5) was designed for left side of the road driving, dipping the right side of the low beam to keep it out of oncoming driver's eyes. That's why the left side of your low beam (and mine too) is higher than the right. Fortunately we can adjust that - by taking the unit completely apart again.
__________________
Dan CSC RX3 Cyclone, CSC TT250, Moto Guzzi V7 II, KLR650 |
|
|
05-05-2016, 12:55 AM | #40 |
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Berthoud, CO
Posts: 205
|
While searching the web for H4 bulb mounting specs I ran across another version of the LED bulb that Gennsi sells - the same except black instead of blue, and the same price for one that we paid for two.
Their beam pattern photo, low beam, installed in a CanAm Spyder, had the same above the cutoff scatter to the left that Detour and I have. Probably not worth trying to twist the bulb.
__________________
Dan CSC RX3 Cyclone, CSC TT250, Moto Guzzi V7 II, KLR650 |
|
05-05-2016, 01:19 AM | #41 | |
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Arvada, CO
Posts: 1,004
|
Quote:
If I have another reason to open the headlight, I'll try rotating it, but otherwise I'll leave it as is. I'm very happy with it.
__________________
Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol |
|
|
05-07-2016, 03:30 PM | #42 | |
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 144
|
Quote:
I am considering getting the new version from CSC. But before I call them, can you tell if the new headlight "lens" can be fitted to the old style bucket, or is the entire assembly different? |
|
|
05-07-2016, 05:25 PM | #43 |
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Arvada, CO
Posts: 1,004
|
NovaRider, when I bought the 2015.5 headlight, I had to buy the whole assembly. The reflector and internal wiring harness is different, plus the running light is incandescent instead of LED. So rather than try and retrofit, it's easier and probably cheaper to get the whole thing.
It won't come with turn signals, so you have to transfer those over. The rear plate is actually identical between the 2015 and 2015.5 versions. So if you've cut a hole in your 2015, you can move it over to the new assembly without having to cut the new one.
__________________
Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol |
|
05-07-2016, 10:54 PM | #44 |
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 366
|
I take it moving the signals over is intuitive and straight forward?
|
|
05-08-2016, 01:20 AM | #45 | |
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Arvada, CO
Posts: 1,004
|
Quote:
I would follow pretty much these steps to install the LED and torn signals on the 2015.5 light at the same time. Sorry if the steps are over the top. I'm a software tester and I can't help myself when I start writing procedures
__________________
Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol |
|
|
|
|
|
|