2006 Vento Mountrack 200cc Enduro - Page 2

oviking99 · 08-09-2013, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by culcune

Great bike for a low price! My TMEC Enduro 200 also has the ZS169FML engine as you stated your UM has one. I liked the looks of the Vento version out of the 3 brands they had in the mid-2000's due to its camo paint.

I bought the UM Renegade ZS169FML for 250.00. It has only 1100 miles on it. No compression. Turned out someone did it's initial service replaced the spark plug with the wrong one. It was too long. Punched a hole in the piston, broke the intake valve and drove it like a nail thru the top of the cylinder head. I cannot find a piston or cylinder head for it. I'll start a new thread on it,, but if you know of a source for said parts please let me know.

SpudRider · 08-09-2013, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by oviking99

I bought the UM Renegade ZS169FML for 250.00. It has only 1100 miles on it. No compression. Turned out someone did it's initial service replaced the spark plug with the wrong one. It was too long. Punched a hole in the piston, broke the intake valve and drove it like a nail thru the top of the cylinder head. I cannot find a piston or cylinder head for it. I'll start a new thread on it,, but if you know of a source for said parts please let me know.

Please do start a new thread on this topic. I bet you can find engine parts at Taobao.

oviking99 · 08-09-2013, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider

You can buy a new, complete wiring harness from Taobao.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=23532076491

Spud, thanks for the information on this and the renegade(New thread started)

oviking99 · 08-09-2013, 12:48 AM

Haven't had much of a chance to trouble shoot the gy 200. But the stator for the Baja 250cc ZS167FMM arrived today. Please see the thread.

oviking99 · 08-13-2013, 12:46 PM

Checked out the ignition electrical today. Continuity on all wiring okay. The coil ohms read okay, on the primary and secondary sides (no spark though). The stator and pickup all read the correct AC, 5v and 80v. All kill and ignition switches check out. Ground test was okay. Pretty good indicator the CDI is dead...i think. One last test to see if I'm getting voltage out of the cdi to the coil.

oviking99 · 08-14-2013, 08:53 PM

Tested for voltage to the primary side of the coil, 0.0v, when the starter is engaged. Almost looks like a ground fault,(kill switch?) flat zero. Or just a dead cdi. Now dig into the wiring diagram and try and decipher which one is the kill wire on the CDI. I know on a 6 wire ac, but not on an 8 wire dc cdi. Not sure if I'll have to run wires directly from the cdi and stator, to the coil. Also not sure what the 9 pin jumper block is all about. One jumper installed.
All new ignition and wiring from Taobao.com is lookin better than wasted time. (reminds me of Spocks Vulcan aunt!) Actually I learned quite a bit about CDI.

oviking99 · 08-15-2013, 01:44 AM

Ordered the wiring harness, CDI, Coil, and regulator for 55.00 from Taobao.com. Can't wait to hear it 'thump'. I was under the impression that if your headlamp turns on before you start the engine, it is a DC CDI, which mine does. I'm hoping the CDI I ordered is correct.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...9&on_comment=1

SpudRider · 08-15-2013, 02:45 AM

If your Vento is the same as my Zong, you need an AC-CDI unit.

oviking99 · 08-15-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider

If your Vento is the same as my Zong, you need an AC-CDI unit.

Thanks Spud. I'm sure you are correct

oviking99 · 08-29-2013, 11:23 PM

I received the harness, CDI, Coil, and Rectifier today.

From order to receiving was 14 days. That included a slight delay for the CDI which was out of stock. I'll post pictures tomorrow. The CDI I received was stamped 167FML

oviking99 · 08-30-2013, 02:08 PM

Alas, she has spark! Just a quick check by replacing all but the wiring harness in the ignition system. My goodness what a small battery, it won't crank over but a few times with the headlight draw. Kick starter shows plenty of spark though. When I get time, I need to clean the tank, install a new fuel filter and try an kick her over. I'm hoping I can post a video later! Yeehaw!

oviking99 · 08-30-2013, 05:44 PM

oviking99 · 08-30-2013, 05:46 PM

She's alive! Video. Now to reassemble the clutch.
I hope I posted this okay. I'll delete it if it's wrong. I am as pleased as a Georgia Peach that I actually have a grand total of $250 invested in a nice bike!
Thanks a bunch for all the help!
By the way do not do as I do with the headlamp hangin' by the wires. The harness will be replaced.

alchemysa · 08-30-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by oviking99

She's alive! Video. Now to reassemble the clutch.
I hope I posted this okay. I'll delete it if it's wrong. I am as pleased as a Georgia Peach that I actually have a grand total of $250 invested in a nice bike!
Thanks a bunch for all the help!
By the way do not do as I do with the headlamp hangin' by the wires. The harness will be replaced.

Congrats on a great result Oviking. $250 all up, what a bargain. You took a punt and it paid off. I'm new here but what a great forum. The info on the Zongshen bikes is phenomenal. Pity I haven't got one!

oviking99 · 08-30-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by alchemysa

Congrats on a great result Oviking. $250 all up, what a bargain. You took a punt and it paid off. I'm new here but what a great forum. The info on the Zongshen bikes is phenomenal. Pity I haven't got one!

Welcome aboard! I found this site in June and it has to be the best site for Chinese bikes around. Yes my Zongshen is an incredible bargain. The engine runs as good as any Japanese bike I have owned. I wasn't too impressed with the electrics, so I replaced them all, less the flywheel and stator.
Enjoy!

08-13-2013, 12:46 PM	#20
oviking99 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 303	Checked out the ignition electrical today. Continuity on all wiring okay. The coil ohms read okay, on the primary and secondary sides (no spark though). The stator and pickup all read the correct AC, 5v and 80v. All kill and ignition switches check out. Ground test was okay. Pretty good indicator the CDI is dead...i think. One last test to see if I'm getting voltage out of the cdi to the coil. Last edited by oviking99; 08-13-2013 at 05:21 PM.
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08-14-2013, 08:53 PM	#21
oviking99 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 303	Tested for voltage to the primary side of the coil, 0.0v, when the starter is engaged. Almost looks like a ground fault,(kill switch?) flat zero. Or just a dead cdi. Now dig into the wiring diagram and try and decipher which one is the kill wire on the CDI. I know on a 6 wire ac, but not on an 8 wire dc cdi. Not sure if I'll have to run wires directly from the cdi and stator, to the coil. Also not sure what the 9 pin jumper block is all about. One jumper installed. All new ignition and wiring from Taobao.com is lookin better than wasted time. (reminds me of Spocks Vulcan aunt!) Actually I learned quite a bit about CDI. Last edited by oviking99; 08-14-2013 at 11:52 PM.
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08-15-2013, 02:45 AM	#23
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	If your Vento is the same as my Zong, you need an AC-CDI unit. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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08-30-2013, 02:08 PM	#26
oviking99 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 303	Alas, she has spark! Just a quick check by replacing all but the wiring harness in the ignition system. My goodness what a small battery, it won't crank over but a few times with the headlight draw. Kick starter shows plenty of spark though. When I get time, I need to clean the tank, install a new fuel filter and try an kick her over. I'm hoping I can post a video later! Yeehaw! Last edited by oviking99; 08-30-2013 at 03:17 PM.
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08-30-2013, 05:46 PM	#28
oviking99 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 303	She's alive! Video. Now to reassemble the clutch. I hope I posted this okay. I'll delete it if it's wrong. I am as pleased as a Georgia Peach that I actually have a grand total of $250 invested in a nice bike! Thanks a bunch for all the help! By the way do not do as I do with the headlamp hangin' by the wires. The harness will be replaced. Last edited by oviking99; 08-30-2013 at 07:10 PM.
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08-09-2013, 12:48 AM	#19
oviking99 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 303	Haven't had much of a chance to trouble shoot the gy 200. But the stator for the Baja 250cc ZS167FMM arrived today. Please see the thread.
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08-15-2013, 01:44 AM	#22
oviking99 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 303	Ordered the wiring harness, CDI, Coil, and regulator for 55.00 from Taobao.com. Can't wait to hear it 'thump'. I was under the impression that if your headlamp turns on before you start the engine, it is a DC CDI, which mine does. I'm hoping the CDI I ordered is correct. http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...9&on_comment=1
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08-29-2013, 11:23 PM	#25
oviking99 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 303	I received the harness, CDI, Coil, and Rectifier today. From order to receiving was 14 days. That included a slight delay for the CDI which was out of stock. I'll post pictures tomorrow. The CDI I received was stamped 167FML
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08-30-2013, 05:44 PM	#27
oviking99 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 303
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