I think I scored a free titled 1985 XR200! - Page 2

Weldangrind · 10-02-2010, 10:32 AM

Waiting for Kato to chime in...

I believe that a Lifanoid engine will bolt right in; everything about it is the same, except the electric start. I would certainly tear down this engine, because you have nothing to lose with it.

Please don't throw it out. Son of Weldangrind and I could use the parts if you abandon it.

FastDoc · 10-02-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by satelliteone

ohh dear! doc. if the frame wheels, and all the bits are there. I would say have a go. Was it knocking when the engine was running? But sounds terminal in any case. Shame ehhh.. i would decide when i got the top end off and just to make sure the bottom end is sweet.

good luck chap.

It really sounded fine. I liked it. The only surprise was I expected it to be much stronger than Q and it was weaker. I was just putzing along at about 15-20 MPH and the rear wheel locked up. I pulled the clutch and coasted to the driveway and that was the end of that. :?

FastDoc · 10-02-2010, 11:16 AM

If I decide to toss it I'd be happy to rather ship it off to you for free if you pay the shipping.

I think my plan is to put it in the back of the barn until January when it cools off too much to ride much and putter with it to fill some 'free' time, whatever the heck that is.

I don't think an OHV Lifanoid will have nearly the power of an OHC Honda, but I think a piston, gaskets, seals, maybe valves, machine work, and a carb it may cost more to rebuild than to repower.

Any leads on a cheap good Lifanoid motor?

SpudRider · 10-02-2010, 11:43 AM

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...She siezed pulling into the driveway. Rode about a mile, and she had oil.

Egads the guy sold it to us at precisely the right moment!...

He is certainly lucky. 8O I'm sorry for you, however. :(

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Originally Posted by FastDoc

...I don't know if I'll rebuild the motor, or repower it with a Lifanoid (is it REALLY a drop in replacement?), or take it to the dump, or part it out.

I'd replace the engine with a Hondoid motor, Doc.

Spud

FastDoc · 10-02-2010, 12:17 PM

I'm torn. A rebuilt Honda will be more powerful, but a ChinaMotor will be much easier, and time is also money. Plus a ChinaMotor fits in with the forum and might be fun to talk about and I don't think any of us have put a CM in an XR so maybe... So can any of you Web Surfing Gurus help find me a cheap motor, and maybe I'll ship my broken one to W&G for him to play with.

FastDoc · 10-02-2010, 02:38 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lifan...Q5fAccessories

:?:

katoranger · 10-02-2010, 02:40 PM

Everything appears to line up, but I have not yet work on my xr yet. Hopefully soon.

Weldangrind · 10-03-2010, 02:14 AM

That looks like a winner Doc. The major difference will be that the left side cover is a little deeper and it has electric start. It would be an interesting project to add electric start to an XR.

FastDoc · 10-03-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

That looks like a winner Doc. The major difference will be that the left side cover is a little deeper and it has electric start. It would be an interesting project to add electric start to an XR.

I'd like the electric start, especially since I'd use this bike to teach people, mostly girls :P to ride and it would be much easier.

The downsides would be more weight, having to fabricate a battey box and wiring/cable harness, 5 vs. 6 speeds, and probably much less power than the OHC Honda. I'm still kinda torn.

katoranger · 10-03-2010, 02:29 PM

For me the lack of power and loss of a gear are not an issue. I would be unlikely to get into 3rd gear before needing to slow down on the trails I ride.

The electric start is nice to have though. I plan to make a battery box and use it.

katoranger · 10-03-2010, 02:31 PM

Doc, you may want to watch craiglist for a cheap china lifanoid to use as a donar. It will have alot of the needed parts for the swap. I am sure an untitled one would be available for the same as a new engine.

FastDoc · 10-03-2010, 03:28 PM

Strange. It is looking to me like there is an OHV and an OHC version:

http://www.hooperimports.com/dept.aspx?dept_id=04

Cal25 · 10-04-2010, 08:29 AM

Dont leave out the 250cc option either.

Weldangrind · 10-04-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FastDoc

Strange. It is looking to me like there is an OHV and an OHC version:

http://www.hooperimports.com/dept.aspx?dept_id=04

Certainly. I have the OHV version in the Beast atv and the OHC version in Son of Weldangrind's XR200R. Either one will do, although I'd grab an OHC if I had a choice.

You need to do this in the name of science, and to allow the rest of the community to live vicariously through you.

FastDoc · 10-04-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

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Originally Posted by FastDoc

Strange. It is looking to me like there is an OHV and an OHC version:

http://www.hooperimports.com/dept.aspx?dept_id=04

Certainly. I have the OHV version in the Beast atv and the OHC version in Son of Weldangrind's XR200R. Either one will do, although I'd grab an OHC if I had a choice.

You need to do this in the name of science, and to allow the rest of the community to live vicariously through you.

So you have compleated the Lifan OHC/XR200 conversion already?

Was was invloved?

What did you do with the battery installation/electrical system?

What abotu the front sprocket and chain alignment.

Hooper Imports sells what they call a WONDERSPROCKET which costs $60+ and they say is necessary to align the chain?

TIA for the input!

10-02-2010, 10:32 AM	#16
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Waiting for Kato to chime in... I believe that a Lifanoid engine will bolt right in; everything about it is the same, except the electric start. I would certainly tear down this engine, because you have nothing to lose with it. Please don't throw it out. Son of Weldangrind and I could use the parts if you abandon it. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-02-2010, 11:16 AM	#18
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	If I decide to toss it I'd be happy to rather ship it off to you for free if you pay the shipping. I think my plan is to put it in the back of the barn until January when it cools off too much to ride much and putter with it to fill some 'free' time, whatever the heck that is. I don't think an OHV Lifanoid will have nearly the power of an OHC Honda, but I think a piston, gaskets, seals, maybe valves, machine work, and a carb it may cost more to rebuild than to repower. Any leads on a cheap good Lifanoid motor? __________________ Happy to serve.
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10-02-2010, 12:17 PM	#20
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I'm torn. A rebuilt Honda will be more powerful, but a ChinaMotor will be much easier, and time is also money. Plus a ChinaMotor fits in with the forum and might be fun to talk about and I don't think any of us have put a CM in an XR so maybe... So can any of you Web Surfing Gurus help find me a cheap motor, and maybe I'll ship my broken one to W&G for him to play with. __________________ Happy to serve.
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10-02-2010, 02:38 PM	#21
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lifan...Q5fAccessories :?: __________________ Happy to serve.
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10-03-2010, 02:14 AM	#23
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That looks like a winner Doc. The major difference will be that the left side cover is a little deeper and it has electric start. It would be an interesting project to add electric start to an XR. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-02-2010, 02:40 PM	#22
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Everything appears to line up, but I have not yet work on my xr yet. Hopefully soon.
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10-03-2010, 02:29 PM	#25
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	For me the lack of power and loss of a gear are not an issue. I would be unlikely to get into 3rd gear before needing to slow down on the trails I ride. The electric start is nice to have though. I plan to make a battery box and use it.
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10-03-2010, 02:31 PM	#26
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Doc, you may want to watch craiglist for a cheap china lifanoid to use as a donar. It will have alot of the needed parts for the swap. I am sure an untitled one would be available for the same as a new engine.
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10-03-2010, 03:28 PM	#27
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Strange. It is looking to me like there is an OHV and an OHC version: http://www.hooperimports.com/dept.aspx?dept_id=04 __________________ Happy to serve.
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10-04-2010, 08:29 AM	#28
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	Dont leave out the 250cc option either.
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