Hawk 250 supercharger

[pcspecialist]

no one caught my pun?

[JohnDoe2887]

Originally Posted by pcspecialist

no one caught my pun?

Explain?

[pcspecialist]

"NOS (laughing gas) is the only thing I would even begin to HUMOR.

[JohnDoe2887]

Originally Posted by pcspecialist

"NOS (laughing gas) is the only thing I would even begin to HUMOR.

Ah I see.... I don't think nitrous would be healthy for this motor....

[pcspecialist]

and a supercharger would be? Nitrous may not be healthy for the motor, but it is the least harmful.

['16 TT250]

Adding X amount of power by any means will stress the motor. Doing it by adding hot air VS. cold nitrous...well, you decide for yourself. The only upside of a TC or SC is that it never runs out of air where a bottle has to be refilled.

I've run lots of nitrous on a few stock V-8s; keep the AF ratio right and the total power boost reasonable and it's no problem. I was spraying 150+ into a stock Mustang Cobra 5.0, tweaked the trans and diff a bit when launched wide open and spraying on hot sticky bias drag tires but that's somewhat expectable. I was told it lifted the left front tire and I was using all stock suspension and running gear with a little ballast in the trunk for extra traction.

['16 TT250]

Originally Posted by w0ss

The smog pumps have been done by others you can see video of it on youtube. Would need to rig up a pulley for those. There are also some electric smog pumps not sure if those would work. I also doubt the stator puts out enough juice to keep it running.

A link to the working smog pump SC video please!

The stator would probably keep up with an electric smog pump because they move very little air at low pressure, you'd get no boost at all.

I did some rough math with a friend of mine for an electric SC for his Dodge pickup, I think it came to somewhere around 600 amps to just keep up and not make boost or be a restriction using 100% motor and pump efficiency which won't be achieved. If you strapped a leaf blower to your bike you might get some boost 'till you ran out of extension cord. At 12 volts it'll take well over 100 amps to run it and the stator makes less than 20 I'm guessing.

[jaymalmat]

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2887

That looks expensive to run.... I think a foger system under the carb then that.... I have been looking for a excuse to build a spark mill for awhile now....

http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Hond...-owBoCR9Pw_wcB

[pete]

supercharger....
seems to me you will have a pile of scrap metal pretty dam quickly...





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['16 TT250]

Originally Posted by jaymalmat

http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Hond...-owBoCR9Pw_wcB

Nowhere in there does it explain how extra fuel is supplied when the nitrous is hit...?!? The kit only shoots nitrous so my best guess is you'll have to jet up and run rich all the time and then lean it back out with the nitrous. Supplying a motor with nitrous and not extra fuel will kill it quickly.

[pcspecialist]

as with all carburated NOS setups, you have to run them rich.

[w0ss]

Originally Posted by '16 TT250

A link to the working smog pump SC video please!

The stator would probably keep up with an electric smog pump because they move very little air at low pressure, you'd get no boost at all.

I did some rough math with a friend of mine for an electric SC for his Dodge pickup, I think it came to somewhere around 600 amps to just keep up and not make boost or be a restriction using 100% motor and pump efficiency which won't be achieved. If you strapped a leaf blower to your bike you might get some boost 'till you ran out of extension cord. At 12 volts it'll take well over 100 amps to run it and the stator makes less than 20 I'm guessing.

All the ones on youtube using smog pumps are pulley driven.

[MDStroup]

I didnt want this to be my first post. I wanted my first post to be me showing off my new Hawk 250. O well. If i can help a fellow motorcycle lover so be it.

The VW smog pump might work on this bike. It is small and surprizingly powerful for what is it. That is because it is actually based on a supercharger. I just cant remember the model you could use.

A better option would be to use an actual small supercharger designed for things like this.

What i am reffering to is the AMR300 and the AMR500. They are actuallt very popular in Europe and Australia . The AMR300 would probably be perfect.

http://www.atltf.com/t3393-superchargers

This site actaully sellls both superchargers and they will ship to the USA. I didnt check to see if he had any in stock right now.

http://www.keicarshop.com/

[JohnDoe2887]

Originally Posted by MDStroup

I didnt want this to be my first post. I wanted my first post to be me showing off my new Hawk 250. O well. If i can help a fellow motorcycle lover so be it.

The VW smog pump might work on this bike. It is small and surprizingly powerful for what is it. That is because it is actually based on a supercharger. I just cant remember the model you could use.

A better option would be to use an actual small supercharger designed for things like this.

What i am reffering to is the AMR300 and the AMR500. They are actuallt very popular in Europe and Australia . The AMR300 would probably be perfect.

http://www.atltf.com/t3393-superchargers

This site actaully sellls both superchargers and they will ship to the USA. I didnt check to see if he had any in stock right now.

http://www.keicarshop.com/

Are you sure the would work with a motor so small? I see why you suggested the VW smog pump after following you link vary interesting....

[JohnDoe2887]

Originally Posted by pcspecialist

as with all carburated NOS setups, you have to run them rich.

What if you had a second sets of jets supplied by a small electric pump that would not be to to hard to make and would more then likely work.... (If it handles Nos/supercharger well....) Why not throw in pre-oxidized race gas? Octane matched of course....