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imapdog · 03-16-2018, 11:46 AM

to Richard
i need the jtr 242 in a 42ish tooth count
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Richard Brice
to me

The 242 is only available in 50 and 53 teeth...and there is not other sprocket in 428 that will work.

You could convert to 520 (JTR254 is availabe in 41 and 43 teeth). If you want to go that route, I need to know the front sprocket to see if there is a conversion to 520.

Regards,

Richard
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to Richard
this is for a 125 lifan 4spd. not sure 520 will work on front sprocket. will it? my stock front sprocket is 428 14tooth 17mm 2017 honda grom. and i have already upgraded it to 428 17t. if 520 would work on rear would going back to 520 14t work as alternative to 17t 520?
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Richard Brice
to me

I don't think it will work. The 520 sprocket is thinner than 428 but the 17/42 gearing is a problem. You will need a 14 in 520 and that puts you needing a 34 rear and the smallest 254 is 39 teeth.

You may very well need to get a custom aluminum sprocket made to get the gearing you want.

Regards,

Richard

Megadan · 03-16-2018, 01:17 PM

If the front sprocket type is the same as the Hawks, the JTF259, then there is a 520 front sprocket option available. JTF328.

The JTF328 comes in 12, 13, and 14. The 12 and 13 easily fit the Hawk and clear the chain, so likely they would also work on your bike. The 14 with a 520 chain around it will likely be too big.

In either case, the lowest gear ratio you will get is around 3.00- 3.15. That being the case, I would stick to a 428 chain.

What are your stock sprocket counts?

imapdog · 03-16-2018, 03:59 PM

the rear sprocket is way better quality than i found on my 2017 hawk. the groove on the side where the clips rest is pretty ok, but its that gold brass looking material....
i was able to put 17 on front. i am happy with the setup but that weak metal rear sprocket will always be in the back of my mind.....ignore the measurements in the pic as i confirmed the jtr 242 measurements(less tooth count)

imapdog · 03-16-2018, 04:00 PM

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culcune · 03-17-2018, 09:00 PM

These guys made me a rear sprocket for a TMEC I used to own. They were quick and the sprocket seemed high enough quality. Not sure how far away they are from you, but they are in Tenn. They were quick to mail order me my sprocket to AZ.

http://www.rebelgears.com/

imapdog · 03-23-2018, 07:47 PM

it did not come with the tapered flat head screws/bolts as in the ad where i purchased it.
it does line up perfect.
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the cut out on the edge of the spinner may be needed for other engines,

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i wish i could have spun the carb to the front, but
the frame is in the way to front and starter is the in way from stock position.
hence the spinner.
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tomorrow is going to be fun.

imapdog · 03-25-2018, 09:54 PM

this is the only posistion that works with this carb kit n filter.
wow, it just did work. the filter gets fresh air though the body
vent.

moving onto new gas lines next.
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imapdog · 03-27-2018, 10:12 AM

usually within a few days of searching , killing time at work. lol. i can find a solution or close to it. this is going to be a challenge. here are some pics of the stock fender. any ideas?
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imapdog · 03-27-2018, 05:26 PM

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its fun to ride. it tuned in really easy.
gotta say, the quality of the ride is nice!
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one might ask, where is the engine on that cycle
because i see an exhaust. well, you have to be this close to see
the horizontal 125cc.

KABANSKI · 03-27-2018, 07:55 PM

Hey I seen a YouTube video where a guy used a decking bracket for fender delete.Looks like it might work.I think the title was under something like 5$ fender elimination or something,check it out.

imapdog · 03-29-2018, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KABANSKI

Hey I seen a YouTube video where a guy used a decking bracket for fender delete.Looks like it might work.I think the title was under something like 5$ fender elimination or something,check it out.

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i am going to carefully grind/sand/dremel the edge of cut down to flush, paint, reinstall, and find me a bracket. i think it will turn out great this way.
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Megadan · 03-29-2018, 07:36 PM

I think it will look great once you sand that edge down

wlfpck · 03-30-2018, 02:04 PM

How much does that bike weigh? I'm assuming it's also using a CRF50 engine mount type pit bike 125cc engine?

If you have the time, ZS190cc with the Daytona 4 valve head. Bored/stroked to 212cc would be an epic "add-on". With the weight to power numbers... you'll outrun the old ninja and cbr 250's.

imapdog · 03-30-2018, 07:01 PM

walked around hardware store long enough i figured it out. little paint, saw, bolts. $20 with paint.
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imapdog · 04-03-2018, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlfpck

How much does that bike weigh? I'm assuming it's also using a CRF50 engine mount type pit bike 125cc engine?

If you have the time, ZS190cc with the Daytona 4 valve head. Bored/stroked to 212cc would be an epic "add-on". With the weight to power numbers... you'll outrun the old ninja and cbr 250's.

where can i get one?

03-16-2018, 11:46 AM	#16
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	no rear sprocket avail per jt sprockets. guess stock crap is best until i custom make to Richard i need the jtr 242 in a 42ish tooth count .................................................. ....... Richard Brice to me The 242 is only available in 50 and 53 teeth...and there is not other sprocket in 428 that will work. You could convert to 520 (JTR254 is availabe in 41 and 43 teeth). If you want to go that route, I need to know the front sprocket to see if there is a conversion to 520. Regards, Richard ..................................... to Richard this is for a 125 lifan 4spd. not sure 520 will work on front sprocket. will it? my stock front sprocket is 428 14tooth 17mm 2017 honda grom. and i have already upgraded it to 428 17t. if 520 would work on rear would going back to 520 14t work as alternative to 17t 520? ................................. Richard Brice to me I don't think it will work. The 520 sprocket is thinner than 428 but the 17/42 gearing is a problem. You will need a 14 in 520 and that puts you needing a 34 rear and the smallest 254 is 39 teeth. You may very well need to get a custom aluminum sprocket made to get the gearing you want. Regards, Richard
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03-16-2018, 01:17 PM	#17
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,033	If the front sprocket type is the same as the Hawks, the JTF259, then there is a 520 front sprocket option available. JTF328. The JTF328 comes in 12, 13, and 14. The 12 and 13 easily fit the Hawk and clear the chain, so likely they would also work on your bike. The 14 with a 520 chain around it will likely be too big. In either case, the lowest gear ratio you will get is around 3.00- 3.15. That being the case, I would stick to a 428 chain. What are your stock sprocket counts? __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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03-16-2018, 03:59 PM	#18
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	stock 14/42 in a 428 the rear sprocket is way better quality than i found on my 2017 hawk. the groove on the side where the clips rest is pretty ok, but its that gold brass looking material.... i was able to put 17 on front. i am happy with the setup but that weak metal rear sprocket will always be in the back of my mind.....ignore the measurements in the pic as i confirmed the jtr 242 measurements(less tooth count) Last edited by imapdog; 03-16-2018 at 05:09 PM.
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03-16-2018, 04:00 PM	#19
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	Attachment 12223 Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-17-2018, 09:00 PM	#20
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	These guys made me a rear sprocket for a TMEC I used to own. They were quick and the sprocket seemed high enough quality. Not sure how far away they are from you, but they are in Tenn. They were quick to mail order me my sprocket to AZ. http://www.rebelgears.com/ __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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03-23-2018, 07:47 PM	#21
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	carb spinner is in it did not come with the tapered flat head screws/bolts as in the ad where i purchased it. it does line up perfect. Attachment 12332 the cut out on the edge of the spinner may be needed for other engines, Attachment 12333 i wish i could have spun the carb to the front, but the frame is in the way to front and starter is the in way from stock position. hence the spinner. Attachment 12334 Attachment 12335 Attachment 12336 tomorrow is going to be fun. Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-25-2018, 09:54 PM	#22
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	carb has been spun to miss frame and starter this is the only posistion that works with this carb kit n filter. wow, it just did work. the filter gets fresh air though the body vent. moving onto new gas lines next. Attachment 12376 Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-27-2018, 10:12 AM	#23
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	x22 fender eliminator challenge usually within a few days of searching , killing time at work. lol. i can find a solution or close to it. this is going to be a challenge. here are some pics of the stock fender. any ideas? Attachment 12395 Attachment 12396 Attachment 12397 Attachment 12398 Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-27-2018, 05:26 PM	#24
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	Attachment 12404 Attachment 12405 its fun to ride. it tuned in really easy. gotta say, the quality of the ride is nice! Attachment 12406 one might ask, where is the engine on that cycle because i see an exhaust. well, you have to be this close to see the horizontal 125cc. Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-27-2018, 07:55 PM	#25
KABANSKI Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Illinois Indiana border Posts: 120	Hey I seen a YouTube video where a guy used a decking bracket for fender delete.Looks like it might work.I think the title was under something like 5$ fender elimination or something,check it out.
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03-29-2018, 07:36 PM	#27
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,033	I think it will look great once you sand that edge down __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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03-30-2018, 02:04 PM	#28
wlfpck Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 249	How much does that bike weigh? I'm assuming it's also using a CRF50 engine mount type pit bike 125cc engine? If you have the time, ZS190cc with the Daytona 4 valve head. Bored/stroked to 212cc would be an epic "add-on". With the weight to power numbers... you'll outrun the old ninja and cbr 250's.
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03-30-2018, 07:01 PM	#29
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	fender has been eliminated walked around hardware store long enough i figured it out. little paint, saw, bolts. $20 with paint. Attachment 12438 Attachment 12439 Attachment 12440 Attachment 12441 Attachment 12442 Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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