New Bashan Enforcer?

[pistolclass]

Originally Posted by chuck

I will not trade my Hawk,registered in NJ.

If the Hawk had the sticker then not sure bashan would be a threat. That sticker is Huge (sorry Donald). Why would someone even bother with the hassle of NJ, PA, CT, IL, Etc.... Just order this.

I'm telling you in a few months there will be dedicated thread, fan clubs and people sporting new tatoos of the Enforcer.

LHJ>L0W if you know what I mean.

[pete]

Originally Posted by pistolclass

with 17 tq and only 11.5 hp if you just spin it faster you could expect more hp right?

with out writing a novel the short awsner is
NO..

If yer looked at a dyno chart yer more than lightly find
the power is alread starting to drop off at max RPMs/red line...




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[pistolclass]

5252 rpm is the intersection so one would think that more RPM makes more power.... Why can't life be a simple constant?

[pistolclass]

Originally Posted by pete

with out writing a novel the short awsner is
NO..

If yer looked at a dyno chart yer more than lightly find
the power is alread starting to drop off at max RPMs/red line...




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I think I got it here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-...sepower-guide/

[Ariel Red Hunter]

Originally Posted by pistolclass

I think I got it here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-...sepower-guide/

Yes, that information is valid. Study up on it, and then re-read Hawk Talk's series of articles on Joe Craig (The Wizard of Bracebridge Street). Be ready to pop back and forth to really get this info mashed in that oh, so reluctant thing - the brain. Not only Joe's Nortons but even the humble little engine in your Hawk is tuned the way both Craig and the Hot Rod mag article describe.

[Azhule]

Probably should be listed as 11.5 kw ? or about 15.4 hp ?

[motorcyclelove]

Don needs to join this cummintity. Why the big jump in price???

[BlackBike]

Originally Posted by letsride

As good as it sounds though. You have to consider the whole package. Here the Hawk is a proven machine with a following. And you really can't deny the support RPS has in place. I.E. you can easily find parts for a Hawk. I LOVE my Bashan Brozz (err, my SON's Brozz) But there is NO website that lists parts for it. Like www.therps.net does for the Hawk. So with all that said. Would I buy this Bashan Enforcer, yeah I probably would as alot of these parts are interchangeable. But if I didn't like to do my homework to find something that will fit. The HAWK would be my bike. Just my .02

For 1ķ hard to argue tithe the price. 3.7 gal tank too w gauge . Looks really good if they get this ramped up I bet they will sell a ton of them.

Now apparently $1500

[BlackBike]

Originally Posted by Azhule

Probably should be listed as 11.5 kw ? or about 15.4 hp ?

I was just going to post the same, I agree with az, I think thats the metric expression. Should be the same hp rating as all the other 229 lumps.

[BlackBike]

Originally Posted by Azhule

Probably should be listed as 11.5 kw ? or about 15.4 hp ?

Here's your 229 bashan! Mabey Manny will do you a good deal since he's such a great guy now according to the latest posts

[pete]

KW x 1.341 = HP.
well that sound a bit better...
but still a under stressed motor
for a 250cc



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[Azhule]

Originally Posted by BlackBike

Here's your 229 bashan!

The list of "China Bikes" on my list grows every day

Now I want to get the Enforcer 250, STORM 250, TT250, KP150 Mini ('Grom Clone'), and the RX3/RX4 minimum

If the enforcer stays at $1,049+ a small amount of shipping it might be in the budget one day

[Ariel Red Hunter]

Originally Posted by pete

KW x 1.341 = HP.
well that sound a bit better...
but still a under stressed motor
for a 250cc



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Neato! When I read this, I flashed back on my mother telling me about being in New York, at Times Square for the Premier showing of Greta Garbo in "Anna Christie". This picture was a big deal because, Garbo was head and shoulders the best screen actress of her day, and this was her first talking picture. My mother told me that the whole side of the Times Building "Was lit up in thousand watt Mazda's, hundreds of them" All the words consisted of "Garbo Talks" in five bulb wide letters about 25 feet high. If Garbo can hear us, I'm sure she would be pleased to know how much horsepower was used for her first weeks showing of this motion picture.

[culcune]

Does have the 21/18 wheel setup vs. its Brozz/Shark stablemates' 19/16, but does not include the once ubiquitous rack. I would still probably go with the Storm, Brozz, or Shark over this in spite of its price. My guess is the details are in the price.

Not to throw rain on the parade, because I am sure this is a great basic Bashan (hence the price), but this particular model appears to be like those few hundred dollar cheaper bikes that sold alongside the Storm a couple years ago when everyone was scooping up the Storm, that were shown on the large, California-based, mail-order firms like Powersportsmax, or Superiorpowersports, etc. Sometimes, people picked them up, and got what they paid for, such as member 'Merlin' who found out that his spokes were the wrong size. It appeared that Bashan purposely made a slightly cheaper model that ended up managing to show its flaws.

If anyone is interested, here are the models certified by Bashan with the EPA for model year 2016 (the 2017 list will continue getting updated, and Bashan and several others who have been continuously on the lists for years will probably show up later, although some have skipped a year or so due to overstock).

BROZZ 250, BS200GY-46, BS250GY-18D, BS250GY-31, MOTARD 250, MOTOMAX 250, SHARK 250, STORM 250

The Enforcer name is probably one of Don's badge engineering tricks like he does on a few of his bikesm including the Storm (called the Stallion) like Motobuys.com is known for.

[culcune]

Originally Posted by Azhule

The list of "China Bikes" on my list grows every day

Now I want to get the Enforcer 250, STORM 250, TT250, KP150 Mini ('Grom Clone'), and the RX3/RX4 minimum

If the enforcer stays at $1,049+ a small amount of shipping it might be in the budget one day

I forgot about your Will 200, Azhule. Those are also what I was thinking about when I mentioned the 'other Bashans' that came out alongside the Storm a few years back, and I really didn't mean any of them in a negative light, but I do think that Bashan had ideas for them as a slightly lower priced bike, vs. their 'premium' enduro, the Storm or Brozz (the Shark is a newer, premium-ish bike).

On another note, I, too, patiently await the KPMini--this is one bike that will stand out among the Groms, the Kawasaki mini, and the numerous clones. It has an actual vertical 150cc thumper, and, more impressive--5 speeds. I think it might out-Grom the Grom!