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Old 02-01-2013, 07:21 PM   #256
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Amen!

They may now with the competition, but the excellent Yamaha has been out for years, as has the KLX. Suzuki needs to come out with something special if they want to re-enter this important market.

On the other hand even though their DRZ400 is outdated, at least they have a 400 class dualsporter! None of the other Japanese makers do that I am aware of!

The DR/XR/KLR 650s are all good solid but old designs. The KLR was redesigned in 2009, but it was mostly evolutionary and cosmetic.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:21 PM   #257
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The crf230 doesn't compare to the KLX. It would serve me okay.
The CRF230L is a good bike. However, the new, CRF250L is a better bike, and it costs less than the CRF230L! 8O

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Old 02-01-2013, 08:22 PM   #258
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I want one of each! :wink:
Indeed! My first motorcycle was a Honda, and I have always liked Hondas. The CRF230F is a great little trail bike, which only weighs 249 pounds with a full tank of gas.

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Old 02-01-2013, 08:25 PM   #259
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Suzuki could continue to sell many more DR-Z400 bikes if it would only add a sixth gear to the transmission! :roll:

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Old 02-01-2013, 08:28 PM   #260
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If I was making the choice today between my KLX and a CRF-L I would have picked the L. At the time however Honda's entry was the CRF230L, which although a nice bike, was quite inferior to the KLX in every performance regard.

Nowadays I'm leaning more towards the European bikes as my riding ability has increased some.
Indeed, if one is buying a new bike, the CRF250L is the clear winner. However, one can find good deals on slightly used, KLX250S motorcycles. A few years from now the used, CRF250L bikes will be even better values! If I find a good deal on a used, CRF250L in the future, I will certainly buy that bike!

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Old 02-01-2013, 10:28 PM   #261
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I have thought instead of replaceing my XR250 tornado with a new bike..
put a 300 kit in it... I have a set of 2000 CR250 USD forks that would fit
with very little mods.. then a Ohlins shock.. still would be less than the
prise diffrents between selling mine & a new CRF or KLX...

the 300 kit looks to be pretty good with every thing..
the kit yeids 9.5hp more than the standard XR..
from 23.5hp to 33hp
20% increass in deplacement & 45% increass in HP with
only 8% higher motor ware rate....
As you can see the kit is all Honda parts from the CB300R / XRE300
You need the new rod as the XR has a 17mm wrist pin the CB/XRE300
has a 18mm.. & the crank case has to be opened up 3mm to take
the 300 barrel...

The kit is $800us

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Old 02-01-2013, 10:40 PM   #262
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That's a nice kit, and it yields an impressive boost in power! 8O

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Old 02-21-2013, 05:09 PM   #263
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Read between the lines on this article on the Hyosung 250.

Honda is pricing the Koreans out of the market!

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...iew-91522.html
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:26 PM   #264
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Honda is stepping up to the plate, and taking on the competition for the world marketplace. In a couple years, I hope there are a lot of good deals on slightly used, CRF250L bikes.

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Old 02-21-2013, 05:38 PM   #265
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I'm sure there will be Spud. PLUS some of them will be pre-Spudied! Let someone else install the goodies! 8)
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:38 PM   #266
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Now if we could just figure out how to use potatos for gas.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:06 PM   #267
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:16 PM   #268
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I've decided the CRF250L is a worthy descendant of the Honda XR motorcycles. I follow several threads concerning this bike on different forums, and the CRF250L is selling handsomely all over the world.

This bike makes pretty good power in stock form. However, you can easily add about 6 horsepower with an aftermarket exhaust and EFI programmer. In addition, you can easily get the bike under 300 pounds if you ditch the huge muffler and install a lithium battery.

Maintenance for the CRF250L is minimal, and the aftermarket support is very impressive. The bike can handle freeway speeds, and gets excellent fuel mileage. If I didn't already own an XR650L, I would seriously consider the CRF250L as a candidate to fill its place in my stable of bikes.

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Old 02-22-2013, 12:31 AM   #269
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:35 AM   #270
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I love that dashboard! Thanks for re-posting the photograph.

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