Beast arrived Oct 07 - Page 16

TurboT · 01-19-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FastDoc

Based on the pictures they both appear to use Lifanoid powerplants.

It's my opinion the motors in the Gio's are SUPPOSED to be Zongshen's. I think they used to have it stamped on the side of the motor. Maybe mine does? I don't remember and it's not here for me to go look at.

FastDoc · 01-19-2010, 04:38 PM

Are they OHV or OHC? That would be the most important thing to know. In general, OHV would be Lifanoid in a 200, I don't think Zong makes a 200 in OHV. But, who knows? :?

waynev · 01-19-2010, 04:57 PM

Here's what it says on GIO's website about the beast engine in the "Features" tab

"This 200cc, air cooled, four-stroke Zongshen Engine delivers hard hitting power from mid to high rpm range. Zongshen is one of the leading manufacturing in quality motorcycle engines. Zongshen ranks at the top of the Chinese motorcycle industry."

TheRealWorld · 01-19-2010, 04:59 PM

Cool, now does anyone know where I can find out if Zong has a 200 ATV?

FastDoc · 01-19-2010, 05:01 PM

Sounds like a Zong then.

I still wonder about the valve gear. I wonder if Zong's factory built a Lifanoid engine or sourced it out and put their name on it. No way to really tell.

FastDoc · 01-19-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealWorld

Cool, now does anyone know where I can find out if Zong has a 200 ATV?

The website only shows ATV's to 100cc, and I've never come across any Zong ATV's.

http://www.zongsheninternational.com...2/Default.aspx

http://www.zongsheninternational.com...2/Default.aspx

TheRealWorld · 01-19-2010, 05:05 PM

I think when it comes to Chinese built, no one Knows for sure who makes it or where it comes from. I tend to think that Zong has a good level of quality control, but I have very little faith in any other.

FastDoc · 01-19-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealWorld

I think when it comes to Chinese built, no one Knows for sure who makes it or where it comes from. I tend to think that Zong has a good level of quality control, but I have very little faith in any other.

Zongs and Q's, as I've stated, are high quality machines, the equal of the Japanese units they are cloned from. All the rest, not so much. I've owned 7 CB's so I have some first hand knowledge.

TheRealWorld · 01-19-2010, 05:12 PM

I am a bit of a novice, so where can I find a Q?

waynev · 01-19-2010, 05:14 PM

Looks like Zong has a 200cc quad, i've never actually seen them for sale anywhere though http://www.zongsheninternational.com...5/Default.aspx

FastDoc · 01-19-2010, 05:31 PM

Of course even Q's are not Q's, they are sourced from different companies, mostly from Qinqi/Suzuki. To really make it somfusing, their 700cc UTV is made by HiSUN.

The only Q Link ATV's I can think of are 90, 500, and 700cc. With they had a 200-250.

FastDoc · 01-19-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by waynev

Looks like Zong has a 200cc quad, i've never actually seen them for sale anywhere though http://www.zongsheninternational.com...5/Default.aspx

Interesting, I did not see that when I scanned the website.

Now the question for Gio owners is to compare that engine to theirs. BUT, it's not a great picture, there is only one, there are no useful specs on the Zong website. :evil:

The Great Enigma continues. :?:

It's part of the Great Chinese Takeove Conspiracy. First, make us all insane.

FastDoc · 01-19-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealWorld

I am a bit of a novice, so where can I find a Q?

http://www.zongsheninternational.com...2/Default.aspx

Dealer Locator upper right corner of the page.

Weldangrind · 01-19-2010, 11:28 PM

To respond to earlier questions:

TurboT, my engine says Zongshen on the side but yours does not. I find that to be really odd, considering they were made in the same month of the same year.

FastDoc, our Beasts have OHV engines, much like Lifanoid stuff.

TurboT · 01-20-2010, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

To respond to earlier questions:

TurboT, my engine says Zongshen on the side but yours does not. I find that to be really odd, considering they were made in the same month of the same year.

FastDoc, our Beasts have OHV engines, much like Lifanoid stuff.

I'm seeming to have some memory issues of late. I knew I saw one with Zongshen on the side and couldn't remember if it was yours or mine. For some reason, I thought your's said Gio and mine had Zongshen, but I'm more inclined to believe you at this point.

I think I need to eat more blueberries...or maybe some blueberries, instead of the none I've currently been eating.

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FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Are they OHV or OHC? That would be the most important thing to know. In general, OHV would be Lifanoid in a 200, I don't think Zong makes a 200 in OHV. But, who knows? :? __________________ Happy to serve.
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01-19-2010, 05:01 PM	#230
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Sounds like a Zong then. I still wonder about the valve gear. I wonder if Zong's factory built a Lifanoid engine or sourced it out and put their name on it. No way to really tell. __________________ Happy to serve.
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01-19-2010, 05:31 PM	#236
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Of course even Q's are not Q's, they are sourced from different companies, mostly from Qinqi/Suzuki. To really make it somfusing, their 700cc UTV is made by HiSUN. The only Q Link ATV's I can think of are 90, 500, and 700cc. With they had a 200-250. __________________ Happy to serve.
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01-19-2010, 11:28 PM	#239
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	To respond to earlier questions: TurboT, my engine says Zongshen on the side but yours does not. I find that to be really odd, considering they were made in the same month of the same year. FastDoc, our Beasts have OHV engines, much like Lifanoid stuff. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-19-2010, 04:57 PM	#228
waynev Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 1,097	Here's what it says on GIO's website about the beast engine in the "Features" tab "This 200cc, air cooled, four-stroke Zongshen Engine delivers hard hitting power from mid to high rpm range. Zongshen is one of the leading manufacturing in quality motorcycle engines. Zongshen ranks at the top of the Chinese motorcycle industry."
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01-19-2010, 04:59 PM	#229
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	Cool, now does anyone know where I can find out if Zong has a 200 ATV?
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01-19-2010, 05:05 PM	#232
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	I think when it comes to Chinese built, no one Knows for sure who makes it or where it comes from. I tend to think that Zong has a good level of quality control, but I have very little faith in any other.
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01-19-2010, 05:12 PM	#234
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	I am a bit of a novice, so where can I find a Q?
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01-19-2010, 05:14 PM	#235
waynev Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 1,097	Looks like Zong has a 200cc quad, i've never actually seen them for sale anywhere though http://www.zongsheninternational.com...5/Default.aspx
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