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PCD · 11-13-2009, 08:59 PM

OMFG do our clutch plates LOVE 15W-40.

I'm on oil change N0.4 and No.1 was crap, 2&3 were Honda 4 stroke which happens to be 10W-30, but I decided to try some Shell stuff (not syn of course) and it feels like a different clutch. It was OK before, but now it just grabs and no between gears neutral nonsense either.

Problem is for us Ontario boys we are already at the limits of the temperature range for it, in my opinion anyway. By the time it hits minus 15 or so it will be like a chunk of grease in your crankcase. Maybe swap down to 10W or 5W, probably 5W.

Just thought I'd mention it.

PCD · 11-13-2009, 10:24 PM

Oh, forgot.
The manual? The dipstick? Ignore it. Remember my dipstick was chewed off so it was useless from the get go.

My 200cc beast just took 1 3/4 liters of oil. Its had an hour and a half to drain back in to the case...know where the sightglass is? (yeah on the engine case ha ha), I mean the sightglass level?

Barely at the "H" for Hi mark. I expect a bit more will drain down overnight, but still...almost 2 liters and I wouldnt get perturbed if i DID put 2 liters in it.
I sincerely doubt its going to hydrolock on you with an extra 1/4 liter.

Weldangrind · 11-13-2009, 10:49 PM

I've thought the same thing. I'm convinced that the dipstick should be the shorty model, not the full length version they shipped.

PCD · 11-13-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

I've thought the same thing. I'm convinced that the dipstick should be the shorty model, not the full length version they shipped.

With you 100%. Somewhere in the dusty reaches of time I posted about my chewed dipstick. The bottom portion of it looked like it went thru a meat grinder, almost ready to fall off in fact. Enter Mr. sidecutter. Chopped it off halfway up the shaft (think John Bobbit) and havent bothered with it since.

TheRealWorld · 01-18-2010, 09:56 PM

After all this would you buy it over again? And if you don't mind me asking, what did it cost, and where did you get it?

TurboT · 01-19-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRealWorld

After all this would you buy it over again? And if you don't mind me asking, what did it cost, and where did you get it?

PCD seems to have dissapeared on us, unfortunately.

There are quite a few others that I'm sure will weigh in on their Beasts.

I for one, am in a different spot, since I bought mine off Craigslist in a non running condition, so don't have as much investment cash wise, but it's been fun so far!

Weldangrind · 01-19-2010, 01:47 AM

I'd buy another one, but I like working on it even more than riding it. Sick, I know.

I bought mine from Gio, and IIRC, it was around $900 delivered (Canadian).

TheRealWorld · 01-19-2010, 08:48 AM

Thanks for the info, FastDoc gave us this link

http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...roducts_id/502

Do you think this is the same unit, or how close? If you wanted a new one would you get it here?

waynev · 01-19-2010, 09:02 AM

I'd get another beast if needed, and with the help i got on here, i knew to do all the mods first, i did the Mikuni carb, Performance shocks, Performance CDI, performance exhaust ( then changed the muffler to the monster one ) and relocated the battery to make more room for the air filter, also changed battery to a 12AH one.

All in all it was a good purchase, mine was about $775 delivered and after all the upgrades i've got about $1000 into it.

TheRealWorld · 01-19-2010, 09:10 AM

waynev,

So where can I be sure to get the real thing today?

Thanks for the input.

Jim · 01-19-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRealWorld

http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...roducts_id/502

Do you think this is the same unit, or how close? If you wanted a new one would you get it here?

I doubt it is the same unit, but much like the Chinese bikes, I bet a lot of different ones are very similar. A lot of them source parts from the same place, to be sure you would have to get the manufacturer of both products. I don't think that one is the same as a Gio Beast, but the same idea.

FastDoc · 01-19-2010, 11:10 AM

Based on the pictures they both appear to use Lifanoid powerplants.

TheRealWorld · 01-19-2010, 11:26 AM

Thanks for the input guys, I am concerned that some of these sellers will sell anything they can get. I bought a unit that had great reviews from Vbike a year ago, and it was a "new" unit, and it was junk!!!!!! I have to think that Tim did not know the low level of quality and he never added it to his website.

That is why I am a little bit gun shy!

FastDoc · 01-19-2010, 11:34 AM

Me too. There are 2 local ChinaBike ATV dealers I might check out. It might be worth a 100-200 dollar premium to buy locally, or 300-400 considering the cost of shipping.

waynev · 01-19-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRealWorld

waynev,

So where can I be sure to get the real thing today?

Thanks for the input.

Well for me i have it easy cause i can get a GIO, but before i knew anything about GIO i was also leary about what i would be getting myself into and after 3 quads and 2 pitbikes i'm very pleased with all of them, my beast was the most work though to get it running to my liking.

11-13-2009, 08:59 PM	#211
PCD Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Newmarket On Canada Posts: 382	OMFG do our clutch plates LOVE 15W-40. I'm on oil change N0.4 and No.1 was crap, 2&3 were Honda 4 stroke which happens to be 10W-30, but I decided to try some Shell stuff (not syn of course) and it feels like a different clutch. It was OK before, but now it just grabs and no between gears neutral nonsense either. Problem is for us Ontario boys we are already at the limits of the temperature range for it, in my opinion anyway. By the time it hits minus 15 or so it will be like a chunk of grease in your crankcase. Maybe swap down to 10W or 5W, probably 5W. Just thought I'd mention it. __________________ Good, Fast, or Cheap....Pick Two.
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11-13-2009, 10:24 PM	#212
PCD Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Newmarket On Canada Posts: 382	Oh, forgot. The manual? The dipstick? Ignore it. Remember my dipstick was chewed off so it was useless from the get go. My 200cc beast just took 1 3/4 liters of oil. Its had an hour and a half to drain back in to the case...know where the sightglass is? (yeah on the engine case ha ha), I mean the sightglass level? Barely at the "H" for Hi mark. I expect a bit more will drain down overnight, but still...almost 2 liters and I wouldnt get perturbed if i DID put 2 liters in it. I sincerely doubt its going to hydrolock on you with an extra 1/4 liter. __________________ Good, Fast, or Cheap....Pick Two.
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11-13-2009, 10:49 PM	#213
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I've thought the same thing. I'm convinced that the dipstick should be the shorty model, not the full length version they shipped. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-19-2010, 01:47 AM	#217
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I'd buy another one, but I like working on it even more than riding it. Sick, I know. I bought mine from Gio, and IIRC, it was around $900 delivered (Canadian). __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-19-2010, 11:10 AM	#222
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Based on the pictures they both appear to use Lifanoid powerplants. __________________ Happy to serve.
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01-18-2010, 09:56 PM	#215
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	After all this would you buy it over again? And if you don't mind me asking, what did it cost, and where did you get it?
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01-19-2010, 08:48 AM	#218
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	Thanks for the info, FastDoc gave us this link http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...roducts_id/502 Do you think this is the same unit, or how close? If you wanted a new one would you get it here?
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01-19-2010, 09:02 AM	#219
waynev Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 1,097	I'd get another beast if needed, and with the help i got on here, i knew to do all the mods first, i did the Mikuni carb, Performance shocks, Performance CDI, performance exhaust ( then changed the muffler to the monster one ) and relocated the battery to make more room for the air filter, also changed battery to a 12AH one. All in all it was a good purchase, mine was about $775 delivered and after all the upgrades i've got about $1000 into it.
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01-19-2010, 09:10 AM	#220
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	waynev, So where can I be sure to get the real thing today? Thanks for the input.
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01-19-2010, 11:26 AM	#223
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	Thanks for the input guys, I am concerned that some of these sellers will sell anything they can get. I bought a unit that had great reviews from Vbike a year ago, and it was a "new" unit, and it was junk!!!!!! I have to think that Tim did not know the low level of quality and he never added it to his website. That is why I am a little bit gun shy!
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01-19-2010, 11:34 AM	#224
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Me too. There are 2 local ChinaBike ATV dealers I might check out. It might be worth a 100-200 dollar premium to buy locally, or 300-400 considering the cost of shipping. __________________ Happy to serve.
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