I ordered a new Hensim 250 street bike - Page 14

katoranger · 07-27-2011, 03:21 PM

This may help. Looks like honda change some things over the years of rebels.

http://www.rebel250.com/rebelforum/v...hp?f=2&t=18632

TheRealWorld · 07-27-2011, 03:22 PM

Thanks for the info. I will try to figure it out. I did have an email conversation with Mo, and he does not feel my diagnosis is correct. I just know that when I put the original back in, it fires on both cylinders.

Oengus · 07-30-2011, 06:18 PM

I would order this unit
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=5909088962

You can order it through this site they would need the link above to quote you a price.

http://taobaofocus.com/

Oengus · 07-30-2011, 06:20 PM

Or this one which is the one they use on the Johnny Pag bikes, but it cost twice as much.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9828767747

TheRealWorld · 06-30-2012, 12:42 AM

Been gone for a long time, been to dog gone busy! I have never been able to find a reliable CDI for this bike, the Hensim 250 Baja whatever. I have received several wrong ones and still have them. The original works until the ambient temp gets over 85. Then it starts to miss fire. Any of you got a reliable source for accurate parts. The ones I have received, look identical, but they are only for a one cylinder, I have two. It starts and runs, but only one cylinder fires. Runs good on the original when it is not hot.

Never did do any tranny work, I just baby it and get by.

humanbeing · 07-01-2012, 04:55 PM

The "generic" http://www.sanxin.com.cn/exhibit/exhview.asp?pid=8 can't fires 2 cylinder because it had smaller cap http://www.sanxin.com.cn/exhibit/exhview.asp?pid=13
If u can't finds the suitable one in states, buy via agents in China (There's successful story in Enduro board from a Australian guy)
The AC-CDi http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13384067228 Made by http://www.cqlihua.com/
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One of the invention by CHEAP roadside mechanic in bike's motherland that stocks Generic parts ONLY : a wire that shares the SAME signal from Pickup coil & 2 "generic" DC-CDI (the bigger that had extra red wire) to each ignition coil :wink:

TheRealWorld · 07-01-2012, 06:06 PM

Hey, thanks for the reply, but those links are in Chinese and I can't make sense of them.

humanbeing · 07-01-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealWorld

... can't make sense of them.

Google Chrome's "auto translate" will gives u some idea.
btw Chinese isn't that hard . You can guess by appearance å¹¶ (side by side) åˆ— åŒ (dual) ç¼¸ as that picture in AC-CDI.
http://www.nciku.com is a good site for non-computerized materials. "Draw" it & get the result .

TheRealWorld · 07-01-2012, 09:17 PM

Thanks, I appreciate your help and will try to work to figure it out.

SilveradoSS · 07-02-2012, 04:13 AM

I have ordered many parts for my Baja Phoenix 250 from the net. There are several sites that stock parts for them. What you have to do is search by engine code (253fmm) when you're looking for engine parts. Also Google for Honda Rebel 250 parts. The engine is a clone of the Rebel 250 engine. This engine was also used in the Honda Nighthawk 250. You can also google Baja Phoenix PX250. Another bike that shares this engine is the Jinlun JL250P.

Below are some sites that I've personally used:

http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/25...0_Twin_4T.html

http://search.store.yahoo.net/yhst-9...=px250&x=0&y=0

http://www.mastertechsports.com/cube...wCat&Submit=Go

http://www.m-and-d.com/results_sql.h...x250&x=18&y=12

Here are a couple of pdf files with parts breakout. One is for VIN prefix LE8P and the other for VIN prefix LUAH. You can google the part number corresponding to the diagram for whichever bike you have.

http://manuals.monsterscooterparts.c...refix-LUAH.pdf

http://manuals.monsterscooterparts.c...refix-LE8P.pdf

Also check for Hensim HS250CR parts.

http://www.partsyahoo.com/FYM-PX250-Cruise-s/128.htm

http://www.super-pocket-bike-scooter...ROAD_BIKE.html

I have modified my Baja PX250 by hacking off the restrictive mufflers and adding 12" Emgo slip-ons, added a Emgo pod filter in place of the airbox, rejetted from a 98 to a 137.5 main jet and replaced the stock 32 tooth rear sprocket with a Honda Rebel 30 tooth. My stock speed was ~70mph. After the mods, top speed is ~87mph. I'm currently down for a blown head gasket. I have the gasket set, just gotta make time to replace them.

SilveradoSS · 07-02-2012, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRealWorld

I have never been able to find a reliable CDI for this bike, the Hensim 250 Baja whatever.

Like katoranger mentioned earlier with the link to the Rebel forum, Honda changed the wiring of later Rebels where one wire from the cdi goes to a kick-stand safety interlock. All you have to do on your bike is clip the non-firing cylinder cdi-to-coil wire and splice it into the wire going to the firing cdi-to-coil wire. Tape off the unused output from the cdi. It will not be used. This will have the bike firing both cylinders simultaneously, albeit on different strokes. There are two separate firing events for both cylinders, one is wasted during the exhaust stroke while the other is on the ignition stroke. Mine is set up this way with no issues. Well, except for the blown head gasket! Ha!

TheRealWorld · 07-13-2012, 07:04 PM

I know everyone knows this but do I check the oil level with the dip stick in all the way or sitting on the opening? I am referring to my Hensim Baja

FastDoc · 07-13-2012, 07:38 PM

All Hondas and Honda clones I'm aware of you check it without screwing the dipstick in. :wink:

TheRealWorld · 07-13-2012, 09:36 PM

Thanks for the info, I found it low today, and thought maybe that is where is was supposed to be. Now I have to figure out why it is low. Good to hear from you again!

TheRealWorld · 07-19-2012, 12:32 AM

OK finally got a new correct CDI and it works! I also have the proper oil level thanks to Doc. I do have one problem that is my fault. I left old gas in this unit since last summer and it sat in the carburetor, and now I have a running issue. It will start, but I cant give it fuel or it will kill. I need to choke it and leave the choke on and it starts up no problem, fires on both cylinders, but if I try to accelerate the throttle, it kills. When I restart it runs great for one second and then slows down to a slow idol.

I assume my problem is a gummed up carb, if I am right, how do I clean it? I have drained all the old gas, and the float is not stuck, as I can drain gas by opening the drain screw.

07-13-2012, 07:38 PM	#208
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	All Hondas and Honda clones I'm aware of you check it without screwing the dipstick in. :wink: __________________ Happy to serve.
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07-27-2011, 03:21 PM	#196
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	This may help. Looks like honda change some things over the years of rebels. http://www.rebel250.com/rebelforum/v...hp?f=2&t=18632
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07-27-2011, 03:22 PM	#197
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	Thanks for the info. I will try to figure it out. I did have an email conversation with Mo, and he does not feel my diagnosis is correct. I just know that when I put the original back in, it fires on both cylinders.
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07-30-2011, 06:18 PM	#198
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	I would order this unit http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=5909088962 You can order it through this site they would need the link above to quote you a price. http://taobaofocus.com/
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07-30-2011, 06:20 PM	#199
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Or this one which is the one they use on the Johnny Pag bikes, but it cost twice as much. http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9828767747
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06-30-2012, 12:42 AM	#200
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	Been gone for a long time, been to dog gone busy! I have never been able to find a reliable CDI for this bike, the Hensim 250 Baja whatever. I have received several wrong ones and still have them. The original works until the ambient temp gets over 85. Then it starts to miss fire. Any of you got a reliable source for accurate parts. The ones I have received, look identical, but they are only for a one cylinder, I have two. It starts and runs, but only one cylinder fires. Runs good on the original when it is not hot. Never did do any tranny work, I just baby it and get by.
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07-01-2012, 04:55 PM	#201
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	The "generic" http://www.sanxin.com.cn/exhibit/exhview.asp?pid=8 can't fires 2 cylinder because it had smaller cap http://www.sanxin.com.cn/exhibit/exhview.asp?pid=13 If u can't finds the suitable one in states, buy via agents in China (There's successful story in Enduro board from a Australian guy) The AC-CDi http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13384067228 Made by http://www.cqlihua.com/ - One of the invention by CHEAP roadside mechanic in bike's motherland that stocks Generic parts ONLY : a wire that shares the SAME signal from Pickup coil & 2 "generic" DC-CDI (the bigger that had extra red wire) to each ignition coil :wink:
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07-01-2012, 06:06 PM	#202
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	Hey, thanks for the reply, but those links are in Chinese and I can't make sense of them.
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07-01-2012, 09:17 PM	#204
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	Thanks, I appreciate your help and will try to work to figure it out.
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07-02-2012, 04:13 AM	#205
SilveradoSS Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 30	I have ordered many parts for my Baja Phoenix 250 from the net. There are several sites that stock parts for them. What you have to do is search by engine code (253fmm) when you're looking for engine parts. Also Google for Honda Rebel 250 parts. The engine is a clone of the Rebel 250 engine. This engine was also used in the Honda Nighthawk 250. You can also google Baja Phoenix PX250. Another bike that shares this engine is the Jinlun JL250P. Below are some sites that I've personally used: http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/25...0_Twin_4T.html http://search.store.yahoo.net/yhst-9...=px250&x=0&y=0 http://www.mastertechsports.com/cube...wCat&Submit=Go http://www.m-and-d.com/results_sql.h...x250&x=18&y=12 Here are a couple of pdf files with parts breakout. One is for VIN prefix LE8P and the other for VIN prefix LUAH. You can google the part number corresponding to the diagram for whichever bike you have. http://manuals.monsterscooterparts.c...refix-LUAH.pdf http://manuals.monsterscooterparts.c...refix-LE8P.pdf Also check for Hensim HS250CR parts. http://www.partsyahoo.com/FYM-PX250-Cruise-s/128.htm http://www.super-pocket-bike-scooter...ROAD_BIKE.html I have modified my Baja PX250 by hacking off the restrictive mufflers and adding 12" Emgo slip-ons, added a Emgo pod filter in place of the airbox, rejetted from a 98 to a 137.5 main jet and replaced the stock 32 tooth rear sprocket with a Honda Rebel 30 tooth. My stock speed was ~70mph. After the mods, top speed is ~87mph. I'm currently down for a blown head gasket. I have the gasket set, just gotta make time to replace them.
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07-13-2012, 07:04 PM	#207
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	I know everyone knows this but do I check the oil level with the dip stick in all the way or sitting on the opening? I am referring to my Hensim Baja
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07-13-2012, 09:36 PM	#209
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	Thanks for the info, I found it low today, and thought maybe that is where is was supposed to be. Now I have to figure out why it is low. Good to hear from you again!
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07-19-2012, 12:32 AM	#210
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	OK finally got a new correct CDI and it works! I also have the proper oil level thanks to Doc. I do have one problem that is my fault. I left old gas in this unit since last summer and it sat in the carburetor, and now I have a running issue. It will start, but I cant give it fuel or it will kill. I need to choke it and leave the choke on and it starts up no problem, fires on both cylinders, but if I try to accelerate the throttle, it kills. When I restart it runs great for one second and then slows down to a slow idol. I assume my problem is a gummed up carb, if I am right, how do I clean it? I have drained all the old gas, and the float is not stuck, as I can drain gas by opening the drain screw.
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