Templar X 250

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by Chienmin Su

My front brake lever felt spongy and doesn't have a lot stopping power. I checked the reservoir sight glass and it's all clear (not sure if it's empty or over filled). I tried to remove the cap by loosing the 2 screws hold it down but they are super tight that I am about to strip them. Has anyone removed them before and what's the trick?

An impact driver is good for smaller screws if the bit fits. The impact driver combines downward force with lateral force (unscrew, or tighten). Key is to use appropriate force. Rubber mallet.

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[Chienmin Su]

Awesome, thank you so much!

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by Twowheeler

Hello there, I just put a Templar X on layaway. Did you say the 6spd has a whine? Should I avoid the X and ask PSM to change my order to the regular Templar?

The 6 speed version of the 249cc engine has counterbalancing, and the 5 speed does not. I could hear the difference when I had a 6 speed. I don't think it's a problem. Lots of 6 speed Templars out there running fine. The engines in the Templars are made by Zongshen. They are model number 172FMM. 5 speeds are 172FMM-3A, and 6 speeds were designated 172FMM-5 when they showed up nearly 2 years ago in the X.

The 6th gear is great, and counter balancing is also a good thing. Personally, I ride mostly off road below 25mph, and I like the simpler engine. I just don't need a 6th gear.

[Aussie_in_MO]

I went with the X instead of the M just because I wanted the 6th gear. I have a lot of dirt roads nearby but they all require at least a few miles of 55mph+ two lane highway so I wanted the extra gear.
If those highway runs weren't a factor I would have likely gone with the M for the extra backup of the kickstart in case my battery dies when I'm out camping in the boonies.

[Vekenti]

Anyone install an aftermarket kickstand after lowering their bikes? Most of the kickstand I've found on Amazon have a rear stud for the spring, while the Templar has the spring on the front.

I don't have a welder so I can't cut the stock kickstand. I did grind the stand a bit so it had more angle. It can hold the bike up for now now. I have to lean the bike way to the right to kick the stand down since it's too long.

[J4Fun]

You may just want to take it to a local welder or auto parts store with a machine shop to shorten it up. This is mild steel and easy to work with. Shouldn’t cost that much if your not in a rush. Just my thoughts…

[fdurancol]

Hello everyone, where can I get parts for this engine, it has a knocking noise not in idle not accelerating but when engine is decelerating (rev up no noise let go gas tic-tic-tic)
I will start to investigate this noise furthermore but I am afraid to start needing replacing parts.

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by fdurancol

Hello everyone, where can I get parts for this engine, it has a knocking noise not in idle not accelerating but when engine is decelerating (rev up no noise let go gas tic-tic-tic)
I will start to investigate this noise furthermore but I am afraid to start needing replacing parts.

Have you adjusted the valves? That should be #1 on the list. And, there should be about one quart of 15W-40 engine oil in there (motorcycle engine oil, or Rotella T4). Other oils might work based on recommendations from forum members.

Engine parts have limited availability, and many of them are not properly described in the vendor's listings with ambiguous engine names (often on aliexpress, etc). This engine is a Zongshen CB250F, specifically the 172FMM. Either designation might show up, but sometimes it shows CG engine. This is probably the most difficult issue with these bikes.

[Thumper]

The X is back in stock at PSM. Haven't checked the ebay or Amazon listings. My son just ordered one. We were going to get an M but not sure if/when they will be back in stock. Having the 6th gear is useful anyway.

Yes, the price went up, as suspected.

[Mumen Rider]

Originally Posted by Thumper

This engine is a Zongshen CB250F, specifically the 172FMM.

If you don't have a balance shaft then it's the CB250F(ZS172FMM-3A) but if you do have the newer Templar X with a balance shaft then you have the PR250(ZS172FMM-5). Just saying this so fdurancol can figure out which 172 he has.

[Thumper]

All three Templars are available right now- base, M, and X.
Prices have gone up as predicted by a couple hundred. X is still under, but just barely under $2000.

[Aussie_in_MO]

Checked the PSM site this morning:
X - $1949
M - $1749
Base - $1599

Will be interested to see what the prices do throughout the year, I'm planning on picking up an M or Base in October when my son gets his motorcycle permit

[Thumper]

My son got his MCO and BOS yesterday, exactly one week after ordering. The crate is at the R&L terminal as of 4 days ago, scheduled for Tuesday delivery.

MCO does show "motorcycle", as requested.

[Mumen Rider]

I requested my MSO to say "motorcycle" too but instead received "off road motorcycle", supposedly they are sending another one out but I still haven't received the "motorcycle" mso for my 150 despite waiting almost two weeks now. PSM.

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by Mumen Rider

I requested my MSO to say "motorcycle" too but instead received "off road motorcycle", supposedly they are sending another one out but I still haven't received the "motorcycle" mso for my 150 despite waiting almost two weeks now. PSM.

They sent me a Manufacturer Certificate of Origin (MCO) for three bikes now, and my son got one too.

What did they send you (What is an MSO) ?
Maybe ask them for a corrected Manufacturer Certificate of Origin in case they don't know what you are asking.

This is what it looks like, shows MCO at the top: