09-01-2022, 08:19 AM | #1 |
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New CSC RX1E Electric ADV Just Announced
I just got an email from CSC announcing their new electric RX1E ADV bike. Specs are as follows:
Liquid-Cooled Electric Motor 96-Volt, 64Ah Lithium-Ion Battery Bosch Dual ABS Brake System Three Riding Modes: Eco Comfort Sport 110-Volt Power Supply 37mm Inverted Telescopicfork with 4.7 inches of travel and adjustable rebound damping. Monoshock Rear Suspension with 4.3 inches of travel, adjustable spring preload and rebound damping. LCD Instrument Panel USB Port For Charging Mobile Devices ABS Saddlebags & 72-Liter Top Box Large Front Storage Tank Center Stand 17" Cast aluminum Wheels Tubeless Front & Rear Tires Weights & Measurements Length: 82.2 inches (2090mm) Width: 34.0 inches (865mm) Height: 47.4 inches (1205mm) Seat height: 30.9 inches (780mm) Ground clearance: 6.0 inches (150mm) Rake & Trail: 27°, 74mm Wheelbase: 55.5 inches (1400mm) Curb weight: 436.5 pounds (198kg); 469 lb with luggage and crash bars Max load: 331 lb (150kg) Regular MSRP is going to be $8495, but there is a $500 discount for preorders, which will knock it down to $7995 for the first ones who order. Comparing it to a Zero FX Dual Sport @ 12,995, it's $4500 less and includes a ton of extras, though it is down on power at 8 kW sustained and 18 kW peak power versus the Zero's 46 kw peak power. Motor torque is 61 ft/lb versus 78 ft/lb on the Zero. Also, the RX1E's motor is liquid cooled, while the Zero's is air cooled. I'm not planning on buying one myself, but it is a pleasant surprise to see CSC and Zongshen throwing their hats into the electric motorcycle ring. |
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09-01-2022, 09:02 AM | #2 |
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That's all cool but the range is only about 125 miles. For an Adventure bike your biggest adventure would be finding a charging station out in the middle of nowhere. lol
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09-01-2022, 08:23 PM | #4 |
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I think this next year will be telling for CSC. Over 9 grand after T&T, from a relatively unknown brand selling Chinese bikes from a single dealership..At least there are less mechanical parts that require technical maintenance..
And the RX6 is possibly coming, which will probably be 7kusd +. One dealer model will be competitive near price with benelli, and cf moto and really traditional brand bikes with the prices.
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09-02-2022, 01:11 AM | #5 |
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a person could buy harbor freights smallest generator and throw it on the back and charge when needed ! as it charges on 110vac ( don't know about the amps though, probably 20 amps or there about.)
3 problems with this bike... 1.) it's way too heavy 2.) it's range 3.) top speed is only 80mph ! but it is a good start for an electric bike almost the same as the RX4 except electric ! and that's not bad at all..... the lower seat height is a good thing given it's weight.... I think it would be a great bike to go back and forth to work on every day as long as work was less than 50 miles away.... just plug it in when you get home but you must realize that the cost of electricity is going to skyrocket soon and there will be no savings at all by going electric as compared to gas and you are sacrificing the range you can go to go with electric..... when they get to 500 mile range I'll be interested.... no matter what California does, the technology just isn't there yet for me ! ..... Bob......
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09-02-2022, 06:42 AM | #6 |
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I agree with you on the range, definitely, but lots of people do generate their own electricity, while nobody generates their own gasoline.
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09-02-2022, 07:03 PM | #7 | |
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Common Tread has just posted a three way comparison between the CF Moto Adventura 650, Triumph Tiger 660, and the Versys 650, and the worst thing that they could come up with is that the CF Moto is sprung too soft. Everything else that they mentioned was the usual fear about parts and support for a Chinese bike, and that they think the other two are a better value, despite being thousands more in price. Personally, for a $3000 plus savings over the other two, I would be willing to spend a couple hundred on stiffer springs for the forks and the shock on the Adventura 650. For the RX6, the killer feature in its favor is going to be the engine - Zongshen licensed the new Norton 650cc parallel twin before Norton went tits up and used it as the basis for the RX6's engine. That design features the much desired, by some anyway, 270 degree crank, plus it was designed for up to 175 bhp, depending upon the configuration. It should be quite a step up from the RX3 and RX4's single cylinder engines, though I suspect that Zongshen will once again leave power on the table to maintain durability. The devilish detail is going to be the MSRP - if CSC can bring it in @$7000 or less, I think it will sell. I'd even consider selling my 2015 Versys 650 to pick one up and try it out, if they can manage that price. We'll see - it's definitely a good time for the US Chinese motorcycle market right now. |
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09-02-2022, 07:09 PM | #8 |
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C'mon man, everybody knows you just pull the extra fully charged bike out of your support vehicle, then let your dead one charge on the generator.
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09-02-2022, 08:43 PM | #9 |
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Agree with JerryHawk. Good urban commuter but don't get too far from home.
CSC usually does things more incrementally. I was expecting something more like this one in terms of price and performance. https://www.advrider.com/at-least-su...rapped-riders/
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Zack was not as "gentle" as the joint article and gave some of the behind the scenes feedback. All of the associated riders agreed that they would prefer a used Jap 650 anything to a new Adventura and that making the bike on the adventure platform was absurd. The company lacks the craftsmanship culture to pull it off. 3/4 the price for 1/2 the bike with no dealer support is not the deal I want.
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09-03-2022, 08:41 PM | #11 | |
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Regarding no dealer support, did you actually watch the whole video? There are 200 CF Moto motorcycle dealers currently, per Zack, with more to follow out of CF Moto's 550 ATV/UTV dealers. That damn sure as hell qualifies as dealer support in my book. So the Adventura 650 is more like 85% of the bike, for 65% of the price, which is a much more favorable ratio to me. If this had existed four years ago, I would have chosen it over the used 2015 Versys that I bought for $6150. New, with zero miles, as well as a warranty, for only $650 more? Yep. As for the ADV thing, the only thing ADV about the Adventura 650, as well as the Versys 650 and Triumph 660 is the body styling. The tires are too small in diameter, weight and center of gravity too high, suspension travel too small, and they have too much exposed down low to qualify as ADV's - they're sport tourers and that is how they were reviewed, properly in my opinion. |
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09-19-2022, 11:09 AM | #12 |
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While I really do like CSC (My SG400 is awesome), I'm kinda holding out for the Benelli TRK752 or TRK802. Whichever makes it to the USA. I want a physically large good-looking sport-touring bike that can handle the hot mess they call roads in northern california. I'd get the TRK502 now, except that I already have the Leoncino Trail, which uses the same engine. I know they're vastly different bikes, but my brain still sees them as the same thing because they share a motor.
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For the TRK502, no, I wouldn't recommend it at all. Way too heavy at 546 lbs wet, with only 38.5 HP. Plus, it's expensive as hell right now - a nationwide search on CycleTrader only shows a couple new and used units, mainly in the $6400-$8400 price range, and that is not OTD pricing either. I know you like Benelli's, but this one is a hard pass, IMO. If you really need a touring bike right now, pick up a new Adventura 650 or a used Versys 650, or even a VStrom 650. You'll find their 65 HP or so much more to your liking. They're still hefty, but they have the power to move that heft. |
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09-20-2022, 12:06 AM | #14 |
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You’re right about all the choices we have.
The quality and features of the bikes from China is advancing soooooo rapidly…. Friggin heated seats are coming. Next will be heated windscreens an regen braking etc Lots of choices. That interview with the head of Norton is interesting He basically states that the market for liter and above is dying fast, and that growth will be in the smaller displacement markets and ev I put a deposit on a silver RX1e. Most of my rides are an hour to hour.5, it will handle that just fine Im down to only one bike my 21 Rx4 I can always pop for a CFMoto an RX6 or Benelli. With my 30” inseam i have to pay attention to seat height. Glad to see a centerstand on RX1e |
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09-20-2022, 08:48 AM | #15 | |
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Let The Good Times Roll
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For the type of riding that you do, an RX1E should slot in nicely. I will warn you though, you might get to missing all the valve checks, oil changes, and chain maintenance - so you better keep some cash ready to spring for a RX6, Adventura 800, or TRK802 if it really starts to gnaw at you. Better safe than sorry, lol. Given your inseam, the CF Moto bikes would most likely fit you to a tee. From what I've seen and read about them, CF Moto seems to have made it a priority to keep the seat heights low on their bikes, Adventura 800 included. Definitely some good times, China bike-wise. |
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