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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I first ran this muffler on my Qlink as I've done on all of my Hondoids but with the OHC in the Suzuki motor, it had a sharper tone that I wasn't happy with. The good thing about the FMF TC2 is that it's a USFS Approved spark arrestor. https://www.amazon.com/FMF-Turbineco...+turbinecore+2 This is now the muffler I'm running on Q and really like the sound. I've done some baffle adjusting (drilled more holes) and it has a nice sound with the OHC design. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I run those same hand guards on every bike I have in the fleet. I like them because they mount with one arm and don't attach to the bar ends. I hit brush and manzanita more than anything and I want them to flex and not push the bar as I'm riding. I have yet to break one. If I was doing Dakar or heavy river beds, I'd get a more aggressive hand guard. Keep me posted on that jet kit! I've always wondered about that one. Also, regarding throttle response, there's a small cap you can remove on the side of the carb and fill the tiny port with a tad of RTV silicone. That really helped my throttle response. I'll get a pic this weekend and post it for you. Here's some pics: the first one is with the FMF Turbine Core 2, the second pic is with the new muffler I just mounted last month and the third pic is of a straight on look at the hand guards that you're interested in.
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05-05-2017, 10:13 PM | #33 |
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Talked to SSR today
I was told that the new SSR XF250 will arrive in the USA on June 10th, a month from now. The dual sport will be available in Black, Orange or White. I'll be test riding, maybe purchasing, next month.
Next I be looking to purchase Suzuki TU250 service manual to become familiar with servicing the engine. |
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05-06-2017, 12:23 AM | #34 |
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Throttle Response
Though CV carbs have a throttle plate like a car, they rely on vacuum to draw up the slide. When in proper balance, they work very well and meter the fuel excellently.
That said, most are also set up for EPA and CARB requirements. Due to them not wanting an immediate rush of fuel when you open the throttle which will create more unburnt fuel, this is what causes the slight lag in throttle response. If you have the same style carb, see in the pic, there's a small plate held in by Phillips screws behind the choke lever. Remove that plate and block the tiny port with a small amount of fuel resistant RTV silicone. Then remount the plate after it sets. This will improve throttle response as it did on Q. Also, you will find the idle mixture screw on the top looking straight down on this carb. I set mine at 2 turns out and adjusted from there. You will find with the OHC motor, it is more hungry and you will find you'll need to run fatter jets than the Hondoids. The other beautiful thing about the CV carb is changing jets. Just loosen both clamps, undo the throttle cables and spin it. You can remove the float bowl without removing it from the engine. It will make testing jetting a breeze. The "EGR" that you are referring to is actually an air injection. It does not hamper performance, but once you remove the cat, it will toss that extra cool O2 (at heavy throttle) that was supposed to burn unburnt gas off your cat and throw it on your muffler packing. If you are not removing the cat, I'd sugget leaving it functioning to keep your cat free of buildup. If you wish to remove your air injection, along with your cat, make a plate and block the head and plug the vacuum port, great. What I did with Q was I plugged the fat rubber hose (with a fat bolt with the head cut off) and plugged the vacuum feed with a BB. 5 minute fix.
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05-06-2017, 11:57 AM | #35 |
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Same carb as the XF250?
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Is that the same carb as the SSR is using on their XF250 bike? What is the brand of your carb? I used your same method of loosening the clamps and spinning the carb to work on my KLR650's carb. Saves a lot of unnecessary disassembly. |
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05-06-2017, 03:43 PM | #36 |
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200: Mikuni BS28 | 250: Teikei MV30
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05-07-2017, 01:26 PM | #38 |
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The xf250 uses a Teikei mv30 cv carb. A similar version the mv28 is found on small zongshen and yamaha dualsports.
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05-07-2017, 01:31 PM | #39 | |
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Haynes Manual for XF250
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Thanks for the heads-up on the Haynes Manual. I'll be ordering a copy. I asked my closest SSR dealer about a service manual, and he had no answers. Same answer from SSR! I appreciate your help. 1CW |
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05-08-2017, 12:42 AM | #40 |
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FREE TU250 shop manual http://www.run2w.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23918 (Traditional Chinese in theory -The text is readable only. Some 100% Kanji words just changed to Chinese equivalent character, not the exact Chinese words | some character in simplified chinese ie. TAI LING hired some monkey to translate...)
--- Why there's shop manual leaked? http://www.suzukimotor.com.tw/milestones.html Taiwan used build Grass Tracker...
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05-08-2017, 12:44 AM | #41 |
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Thanks for the info guys! I'm not sure the diameter of the exhaust pipe, will have to go measure. I appreciate you posting your pics up also, 2LZ. I was hoping to find a wix number, but i did find a link to the filters on Ebay. I emailed CMPO for some information on some parts as well, so we'll see if they get back with me.
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05-08-2017, 11:01 AM | #42 |
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It's good to keep up and learn about new bikes, as they changed the carb type on the XF250 as opposed to the 200. Humanbeing is always a wealth of information. :-)
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05-08-2017, 12:56 PM | #43 | |
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Haynes Manual Catalog Number
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I contacted chinesemotorcyclepartsonline and received a reply this morning. They told me they did not have or know about such a manual. Can you check to see if your manual is actually by Haynes, and/or can you give me the catalog or publication item number from your manual. If I have the Haynes Manual catalog number I can probably order it direct from Haynes. Thanks, 1CW |
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05-08-2017, 03:24 PM | #44 |
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Give this a try. If you contact CMPO they won't know what an SSR is. This bike is branded a Pulse Adrenaline XF250 in the UK. It is also sold as a Sinnis Apache XF 250.
https://www.chinesemotorcyclepartson...50GY/XF250GY/0 https://www.chinesemotorcyclepartson...ulse/XF250GY/0
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05-08-2017, 03:54 PM | #45 | |
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Thanks for the feed back. I'll check it out and place an order. Very helpful. Every place I contacted knew nothing about a SSR XF250 manual, including Haynes. (I didn't have the Haynes number 5750) |
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