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09-12-2016, 01:13 PM | #1 | |
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Location: Chicago, IL
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I find it hard to believe that there are NO other dealers selling the Magician, specifically ones that I don't have to be worried about getting scammed in any kind of way. |
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09-12-2016, 07:12 PM | #2 |
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: George West, Texas
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Looks like a capable CB but It just seems like there is less of what you get from a hawk or a bashan. I belive pricing are equal to hawks but It seems like you are getting less of a bike. Like rvs , you pay more for smaller units. Good bike for those that require it's specs.
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09-12-2016, 08:26 PM | #3 | |
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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http://www.motobuys.com/sportbikes.html Manny did join us here, as well as Motobuys months ago, but it seemed like both owners joined due to negative publicity. OK, 'Manny' joined due to compliments, and never did address 'Azhule's' complaints. The RPS rep, Adam, has stated that one can buy a Magician from ANY dealer who sells Hawks and he links Q9 Powersports to his name here, and some have reporting buying from QP (Hawks, not Magicians) and had good results. APSC should be able to get Magicians, too, and I bet would package them with a nice discount if you asked them. According to EVERYONE who has reviewed them, they have no problem getting hold of them on the phone, and all questions are answered. It seems that member SANY has had a good initial ownership experience with his Bashan Brozz, and has mentioned in his video that the seat height is 31" which confirms Powersportsmax's seat height listing. You might want to check out the Brozz to compare bikes. 31" opens up a whole new range of possibilities without the sagging rear!!
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09-12-2016, 10:32 PM | #5 |
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: connecticut
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Talk to Don at APSC he works real hard for his customers and I bet he can get you a magician.
I just order a Go Kart for my son from them and they are great to deal with. |
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09-30-2018, 09:03 PM | #6 |
Join Date: Sep 2018
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Fellow illinoisian
Hey Ironheart, i live in illinois and i was curios if you got the magician and were able to get it street legal here. I hear they arent?!?!
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10-01-2018, 07:02 PM | #7 |
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 90
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I have had my Magician for about 18 months
First thing to know is that the stock gearing is 15/45 Switching to a 17T front helps a little but changing the rear sprocket is impossible without changing the whole wheel assembly That's because the bolt pattern is a large 6 bolt and there is no room for a smaller OD chain wheel I solved this by fitting a rear wheel from an old Honda XL The seat is narrow and kind of hard, so not the best for trips The fuel tank is small and due to the shape of the frame, it would not be easy to find an alternative I have a 30" inseam and I cannot flat foot the bike, but it is not so tall that I feel uncomfortable Also the rear suspension uses dog bone links, so it could be lowered if you really want to I have not made any other mods to mine and I doubt that I will Overall I am pleased with it; it's light, fun to ride and I like the looks BTW: I got mine from APSC USA |
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12-07-2018, 12:03 AM | #8 |
Join Date: Apr 2015
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I'm thinking of buying one from Superior Power Sports.
$939 plus $279 shipping. https://www.superiorpowersports.com/...b-magician.htm What's the word on them? I sold my Bashan awhile back, it was OK, but the footpegs were too far forward, how is the footpeg position on the Magician? |
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12-07-2018, 03:23 PM | #9 |
Join Date: Sep 2018
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When you buy anything RPS all that dealer is doing is placing an order to RPS out of TX for you.. Look on the shipping papers when you get it..
I'd recommend a Bashan or CSC instead. If you get sent a wrecked-used bike you won't even be able to get engine parts using the warranty when you go with RPS A.K.A. [enter your seller here].. |
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09-12-2016, 10:41 PM | #10 | |
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Also, not that there is anything wrong with APSC, but any dealer can do the same two-pack offer Don has on his website -- just for some reason he is the only one that bothered to list it. The main reason I list Q9 is because if there is a problem, I can always get the owner on the phone and try to deal with it. There actually isn't any difference between most of the dealers, its the same product coming from the same warehouse on the same semi-trucks. Even the MCO timing isn't as different as people think, its just some people get lucky and some don't. The biggest differences are some dealers are more experienced with the DMV in certain regions, and how good their mechanic is at identifying problems over the phone and submitting coherent parts requests. |
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09-12-2016, 11:10 PM | #11 |
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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Thanks for chiming in, Adam! It is always nice getting word from the 'source' of the bike, which is more than other brands! Motobuys does have a photo of the bike, but they always re-name their bikes with defunct brands of Chinese brands, such as Jetmoto, Lancer, Kymoto, etc. The Magician is called a Lancer Road Warrior at Motobuys
BTW, are the Magicians only in Dallas, or do you have any in L.A.?
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09-12-2016, 11:30 PM | #12 |
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chicago, IL
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Wow, thanks for all the input guys. And thanks again Adam for the information, I hope others interested in getting a Magician will look to this now. Also, haha they called some models jetmoto? Like the playstation game way back when? That's too good. Anyways, thanks again everyone for the input and information!
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09-12-2016, 11:44 PM | #13 |
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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Jetmoto is a defunct brand of Chinese bikes from the mid-2000's. I had a '06 Jetmoto 200cc enduro. Lancer was a brand that is now defunct from around the same time period. I vaguely remember Kymoto. Vento was another brand. One of their bikes was a re-branded Zongshen Sierra. Anyway, enough Chinabike memory lane--call Motobuys and see what kind of deal they can do for you on their 'Lancer Road Warrior'. Member SANY bought a Bashan Brozz from them, even though he was trying to buy a Bashan Storm, and had good things to say about his service. We'll see how long the MCO takes to get to him, but Adam can walk you through the process to expedite the MCO from Motobuys if you buy a Magician from them (not really 'expedite' but rather get it in the proper time period).
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09-12-2016, 11:53 PM | #14 |
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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Linking to 'Motocheez's' video on his Magician, one of the commenters named Israel Diaz mentioned he bought it from Motobuys and had a good experience.
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09-13-2016, 12:52 PM | #15 |
Join Date: Oct 2015
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I will admit that more can and should be done to expedite MCOs, although I've heard from more than one vendor that we are already better than the other importers.
There is a lot of room for human error: the person who prints the MCO is not the same person who signs it, and someone else mails it, someone else receives it, someone else signs it again, someone else mails it. There are multiple opportunities to screw up information like the VIN number or who the MCO is ultimately being sent to. Since it gets mailed twice, its twice as likely to get lost or delayed in the mail. If someone gets wrong, everything has to be reprinted and resigned and remailed all over again. We have improved and are improving our computers to streamline the process. The idea of the MCO makes a lot of sense from a regulatory perspective, but the way it is done is not suited for online sales. How can a vendor actually certify an MCO on a unit they've never physically seen or had in their possession? |
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