Battery Recommendations?

zanoknight · 08-27-2016, 12:03 PM

So I woke up today to find myself a dead battery (sigh) it lasted me about 3 years so i can't complain. Now it's time to buy a new one. Anyone order theirs online? I've been looking all over and i'm overwhelmed by the amount of choices. My owner manual recommends 12v at 4 or 5 ah. Can I get a higher ah? like a 12v 10ah? I like having the security on those cold winter days.

Any info would be awesome!

Weldangrind · 08-27-2016, 02:00 PM

The ah reference can be interpreted as volume. As you look at the box that the battery fits in, you can see that capacity is limited to what fits in the space. If a 5ah battery is a snug fit in the box, you can't fit anything larger. That mostly applies to lead acid batteries.

These are very generalized comments, as the fancier LiFePO4 batteries can spin the motor over faster despite a smaller package. They are much more expensive and mustn't be allowed to run low.

My favourite is the BikeMaster Platinum II MS12-4L-A AGM battery. It is a good balance between cost, capacity and longevity. It is available from several sources, and I either bought mine at Rocky Mountain or Bike Bandit (can't recall which). That was in 2013, and it is still going strong. AGM is nice because it doesn't spill and rust the frame and battery box.

zanoknight · 08-27-2016, 02:23 PM

thanks for the reply!

I know I can fit a decent size battery, it just cant be tall. it has to be a rectangle like the one you recommended. The one I have installed now barely fits. I actually might consider it too small. that's why I was wondering if the ah will affect the system in anyway (in a negative way)

Adjuster · 08-27-2016, 03:13 PM

My local WalMarts now have a very good selection of AGM small engine batteries. Can't beat the convenience, cost and easy return policy if there is a problem. Take your battery box dimensions to the store with you and purchase the largest battery that will fit your box. You also need to make sure the positive negative terminals are on matching sides of the batteries.

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Weldangrind · 08-27-2016, 06:51 PM

X2. I bought a Walmart AGM battery last year, and it's still going strong in a quad.

pete · 08-27-2016, 07:19 PM

The XT660 got 8 years out of the Yuasa..
the TTR250 got 6 years out of the Yuasa..
Yuasa ain't cheap but they are possably best
of the AGM battreys...
Prob why Yamaha use Yuasa as standard...

Motobatts are quite good ..."yellow ones"

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culcune · 08-27-2016, 09:36 PM

Try t-motorsports gel-cell batteries. Had one that lasted through two TMEC 200 enduros. I let the bike sit for several months, and finally, after two or so years, corrosion got to where the wires bolt on, rendering the battery useless. I knew I should have disconnected the battery!

http://www.t-motorsports.com/batteries/?sort=priceasc

The catch is that you have to measure yours, and see if they fit within the confines of the replacement battery, which was what I did. The advantage of the gel-filled battery was that they shipped it complete, ready to go (of course, you want to put it on a trickle charger, first), since you don't have to squeeze in the acid, although they do carry acid-filled ones, too.

humanbeing · 08-28-2016, 03:47 AM

Are u talking that Xingfu in http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16012
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Xingfu used had thai investor, their early 125 (pre '93) had Honda parts... Engine from old model looks as Honda (small-fin barrel/ Kick ONLY) http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5fffe9ed01019jp3.html YB3L-A is suitable for these | The E-strart version is somthing similar to Hawk ~6.5Ah
You will find it after reading http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16520 | http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...ghlight=chrome | http://www.yuasabatteries.com/pdfs/Y..._Apps_2015.pdf

zanoknight · 08-29-2016, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by humanbeing

Are u talking that Xingfu in http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16012
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Xingfu used had thai investor, their early 125 (pre '93) had Honda parts... Engine from old model looks as Honda (small-fin barrel/ Kick ONLY) http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16012 YB3L-A is suitable for these | The E-strart version is somthing similar to Hawk ~6.5Ah
You will find it after reading http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16520 | http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...ghlight=chrome | http://www.yuasabatteries.com/pdfs/Y..._Apps_2015.pdf

Thank you so much for the info! It's so hard to find any info on my motorcycle. Yes it is a XingFu, It's from 2001 (according to my title). If you have any more info I would greatly appreciate it. I can't find a wiring diagram anywhere. whoever had this bike before me did an awful job taking care of it. They rewired it all wrong and I have slowly put it back together.

zanoknight · 08-29-2016, 01:56 AM

Thanks everyone for your inputs! I really appreciate it.

humanbeing · 08-29-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by zanoknight

...They rewired it all wrong and I have slowly put it back together.

Rewire is easier if divide in groups: E-start | IGN | Signal | Charging & lights (front/ rear)
http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....45&postcount=2
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Honda color code is usable in chonda & other far east imports: Taiwanese (Kymco/ SYM & copycats...) | Korean (Daelim)
Red: battery's + to lock s/w
Pink: Stator to rec/reg
Blue: hi-beam
Green: - & ground
Black: the + after lock s/w
White: Charging output, Lo-beam
Yellow: Headlight's power source (AC headlight / half-wave system mostly) | charging input (rec)
Grey: flasher to indicating s/w
Orange: Indicating s/w to LEFT's
Sky blue:Indicating s/w to RIGHT's
light brown: lights in the Gauge
Brown/white: front position light
Light green horn to it's switch
Red / white: rectifier output (Voltage sampling wire in 5-wire rec...)

black / white: CDI to lock switch (IGN OFF) ***often means grounded/- ***
blue / white: Trigger signal (Blue / yellow...)
Orange / White: left indicator inside gauge
Blue / white: right indicator inside gauge
Yellow / white: fuel level gauge to float s/w
Black / red: From exciter coil to CDI ***AC-cdi's power source***
Light green / red: neutral s/w to it's light bulb

black / yellow: CDI (output) to ign coil
Green / yellow: brake s/w to brake lights
Yellow / red: For solenoid's +

zanoknight · 08-29-2016, 03:31 PM

thank you! everything you gave me was super helpful!

hertz9753 · 08-30-2016, 11:32 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-Tend...-/232037249826?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deltran-Batt...843919?vxp=mtr

That is what I use. The battery was $69.18 and the charger was $29.11 and I also got a small discount when I purchased them together. The battery was smaller that the stock battery but came with foam blocks and tape on one side to make it snug.

humanbeing · 08-31-2016, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hertz9753

... I also got a small discount when I purchased them together...

Compare & find the best deal in http://www.nextag.com
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btw. Most smart RC charger had LiFePO4 mode. M/c battery is just a 4-cell pack...

Azhule · 08-31-2016, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by hertz9753

The battery was smaller that the stock battery but came with foam blocks and tape on one side to make it snug.

The foam blocks wasn't enough for our bike/battery box design... so I just cut a small piece off a "Pool Noodle" to make a nice and snug fitting "Foam Spacer" for the Lithium battery on our Bashan

08-27-2016, 12:03 PM	#1
zanoknight Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 46	Battery Recommendations? So I woke up today to find myself a dead battery (sigh) it lasted me about 3 years so i can't complain. Now it's time to buy a new one. Anyone order theirs online? I've been looking all over and i'm overwhelmed by the amount of choices. My owner manual recommends 12v at 4 or 5 ah. Can I get a higher ah? like a 12v 10ah? I like having the security on those cold winter days. Any info would be awesome!
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08-27-2016, 02:00 PM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	The ah reference can be interpreted as volume. As you look at the box that the battery fits in, you can see that capacity is limited to what fits in the space. If a 5ah battery is a snug fit in the box, you can't fit anything larger. That mostly applies to lead acid batteries. These are very generalized comments, as the fancier LiFePO4 batteries can spin the motor over faster despite a smaller package. They are much more expensive and mustn't be allowed to run low. My favourite is the BikeMaster Platinum II MS12-4L-A AGM battery. It is a good balance between cost, capacity and longevity. It is available from several sources, and I either bought mine at Rocky Mountain or Bike Bandit (can't recall which). That was in 2013, and it is still going strong. AGM is nice because it doesn't spill and rust the frame and battery box. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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08-27-2016, 06:51 PM	#5
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	X2. I bought a Walmart AGM battery last year, and it's still going strong in a quad. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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08-27-2016, 07:19 PM	#6
pete Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: ChCh , NZ Posts: 2,261	The XT660 got 8 years out of the Yuasa.. the TTR250 got 6 years out of the Yuasa.. Yuasa ain't cheap but they are possably best of the AGM battreys... Prob why Yamaha use Yuasa as standard... Motobatts are quite good ..."yellow ones" .. __________________ 09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com
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08-27-2016, 09:36 PM	#7
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Try t-motorsports gel-cell batteries. Had one that lasted through two TMEC 200 enduros. I let the bike sit for several months, and finally, after two or so years, corrosion got to where the wires bolt on, rendering the battery useless. I knew I should have disconnected the battery! http://www.t-motorsports.com/batteries/?sort=priceasc The catch is that you have to measure yours, and see if they fit within the confines of the replacement battery, which was what I did. The advantage of the gel-filled battery was that they shipped it complete, ready to go (of course, you want to put it on a trickle charger, first), since you don't have to squeeze in the acid, although they do carry acid-filled ones, too. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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08-27-2016, 02:23 PM	#3
zanoknight Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 46	thanks for the reply! I know I can fit a decent size battery, it just cant be tall. it has to be a rectangle like the one you recommended. The one I have installed now barely fits. I actually might consider it too small. that's why I was wondering if the ah will affect the system in anyway (in a negative way)
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08-27-2016, 03:13 PM	#4
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	My local WalMarts now have a very good selection of AGM small engine batteries. Can't beat the convenience, cost and easy return policy if there is a problem. Take your battery box dimensions to the store with you and purchase the largest battery that will fit your box. You also need to make sure the positive negative terminals are on matching sides of the batteries. /
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08-28-2016, 03:47 AM	#8
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	Are u talking that Xingfu in http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16012 --- Xingfu used had thai investor, their early 125 (pre '93) had Honda parts... Engine from old model looks as Honda (small-fin barrel/ Kick ONLY) http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5fffe9ed01019jp3.html YB3L-A is suitable for these \| The E-strart version is somthing similar to Hawk ~6.5Ah You will find it after reading http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16520 \| http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...ghlight=chrome \| http://www.yuasabatteries.com/pdfs/Y..._Apps_2015.pdf __________________ Last edited by humanbeing; 08-29-2016 at 04:00 AM. Reason: fixed the url
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08-29-2016, 01:56 AM	#10
zanoknight Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 46	Thanks everyone for your inputs! I really appreciate it.
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08-29-2016, 03:31 PM	#12
zanoknight Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 46	thank you! everything you gave me was super helpful!
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08-30-2016, 11:32 PM	#13
hertz9753 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 868	http://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-Tend...-/232037249826? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deltran-Batt...843919?vxp=mtr That is what I use. The battery was $69.18 and the charger was $29.11 and I also got a small discount when I purchased them together. The battery was smaller that the stock battery but came with foam blocks and tape on one side to make it snug. __________________ 2015 and 3/4 RPS Hawk 250. Most people would call it a 2016 but the MCO didn't.
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