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Old 11-22-2014, 01:48 PM   #841
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Old 11-22-2014, 01:50 PM   #842
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Been lurking for while since I'm on the CSC list. Figured it's time I joine. Got my call yesterday but was traveling in poor cell coverage. But made it clear I'm in and will call back on Monday. Now I got the whole weekend to think about what color....
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Your screen name has piqued my curiosity. The only three cylinder engines I can think of are the Kawasaki triples and the Chev / Gio / Suzuki sub-compacts. Is your screen name an engine reference?
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Old 11-22-2014, 01:55 PM   #843
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Maybe somewhere in internet has an information about tenders where zongshen won, and now they are supply zongshen nc 250 for GasGas and AGP?
That's an excellent question. Somehow, Zong found there way into several different brands, none of which seem to acknowledge the origin.
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Old 11-22-2014, 02:15 PM   #844
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Maybe somewhere in internet has an information about tenders where zongshen won, and now they are supply zongshen nc 250 for GasGas and AGP?...
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That's an excellent question. Somehow, Zong found there way into several different brands, none of which seem to acknowledge the origin.
I haven't seen any information posted where these manufacturers acknowledge they are using the Zongshen engine. However, I don't have any doubt it is the NC250 engine. You can't mistake the distinctive features of this engine, and the manufacturers are listing the exact bore, stroke, and other specifications for the NC250 engine.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:06 PM   #845
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The stock tires on the Zongshen RX3 are the following sizes.

Front: 100/90-18
Rear: 130/90-15

These tires are the same size as the stock tires on the Zongshen ZS200GY-2. Therefore, I surmise the rims are the same size.

Front Rim: 2.15-18
Rear Rim: 2.75-15

Finding a good, domestic tire for the front rim is relatively easy. I first intend to wear out the stock, CST, C6017 front tire. The stock tire is not available for sale in North America, so I will probably replace the front tire with a Shinko 244 in size 3.00-18.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...CqLBoCWvzw_wcB

Before I switched to a 21-inch front wheel on my Zongshen 200GY-2, I mounted a Shinko 244 on the 18-inch front wheel, and it performed well. Here is a photograph of the size 3.00-18 tire mounted on my Zong's front wheel.



This is a nice, dual sport tire with an attractive price of $30.99.

I also intend to wear out the tire on the stock, 15-inch rear wheel. After the rear tire is worn, I am switching to the 17-inch rear wheel, since you cannot buy a 15-inch knobby tire anywhere in North America. However, there are several nice choices for 17-inch tires.

One choice is the Shinko, 244 rear tire in size 5.10-17.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...edWBoCLoLw_wcB



Another nice choice is the Shinko, 700 rear tire in size 5.10-17.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...miMhoCRpjw_wcB



Yet another good option is the Kenda, K270 rear tire in size 5.10-17.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...pose-rear-tire

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Old 11-22-2014, 07:15 PM   #846
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Here is an old video describing the Shinko, dual sport tires.

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Old 11-22-2014, 07:31 PM   #847
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The stock, CST, C6017, 15-inch rear tire is not available for sale in North America.



However, if you switch to a 17-inch rear wheel, the Shinko 705 tire is available in size 130/90-17.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...IUihoCdynw_wcB

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Old 11-22-2014, 10:09 PM   #848
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The Shinko 244 is actually a pretty decent dual sport tire. They handle very good on the pavement and are quite good off road. The only shortcoming I noticed on them was the tendacy to chunk knobs. I never had a failure and rode them through the lifespan of the tire sans a half a dozen missing knobs. Got about 3000 miles out of them. This was on a KLR riding a lot of dirt.
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:13 PM   #849
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I use the Shinko tires on my KLR and they are good. They sing a bit at speed but the price is right and they were much better than the OEM Kawasaki tires.

My KLR is the red one. This first photo is the church in San Vincente in Baja about 170 miles south of the border. It's one of the places we'll stop to take photos when we ride our Cyclones through Baja.



The next photo is the Isla Del Carmen, a ship that partially sank off the San Jacinto coast in 1984. That's a bit further down in Baja.

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I first saw the Isla Del Carmen in Clement Salvadori's book about motorcycling in Baja. The only difference between his photo and mine is that the salt water had a quarter-century to work its magic on the wreck. The ship had broken into two pieces by the time I took my photo. And, my photo has the KLRs in front of it. I think a similar photo with a bunch of RX-3 Cyclones would look even better.

Both of these locations (and many more) are photo ops that we'll hit on the inaugural CSC Cyclone Baja ride. If you want to see more of the places we'll see on that ride, you can visit my personal site at www.motofoto.cc. A better way to experience the beauty of Baja, though, would be from the seat of your Cyclone. In my mind, I am already visualizing how good the Cyclone will look in future Baja photos. The riding down there is the best in the world, and the Cyclone is the perfect bike for it.



We'll be out in the dirt and on the highway on the RX-3 tomorrow. Watch for more photos on the CSC blog.
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:19 PM   #850
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Do you guys have to get rid of the test bikes? Just wondering how that works when you import test bikes while awaiting EPA/DOT approval.
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Do you guys have to get rid of the test bikes? Just wondering how that works when you import test bikes while awaiting EPA/DOT approval.
When we are done with the test bikes, we either have to return them to their country of origin or destroy them. These particular bikes cannot be sold for use in the US. It seems like a crime against nature, but it is what it is.
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Old 11-23-2014, 12:50 AM   #852
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The Shinko 244 is actually a pretty decent dual sport tire. They handle very good on the pavement and are quite good off road. The only shortcoming I noticed on them was the tendacy to chunk knobs. I never had a failure and rode them through the lifespan of the tire sans a half a dozen missing knobs. Got about 3000 miles out of them. This was on a KLR riding a lot of dirt.
In touring mode the RX3 should weigh about 100 pounds less than the KLR650, and the NC250 engine makes less power. Therefore, I think the Shinko 244 tires should work very well, and last a long time mounted on the RX3. I never had any problems with the Shinko 244, size 3.00-18 tire mounted on the front wheel of my Zongshen 200GY-2.
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Old 11-23-2014, 12:52 AM   #853
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Those Baja photographs are beautiful, Joe. I might be talking myself into the Baja trip. When is the trip scheduled?
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Old 11-23-2014, 12:56 AM   #854
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When we are done with the test bikes, we either have to return them to their country of origin or destroy them. These particular bikes cannot be sold for use in the US. It seems like a crime against nature, but it is what it is.
Indeed, destroying a perfectly good, new motorcycle is a shame. However, this type of requirement is typical of governmental regulations.
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Old 11-23-2014, 01:05 AM   #855
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The Shinko 244 tire handles very well on every surface, except mud. In heavy mud the Shinko 244 is useless. Fortunately, if one is taking an adventure where heavy mud might be encountered, you can mount the CST, Surge I (C7210) tire in size 100/90-18, on the stock front wheel of the RX3. I use the 21-inch version of this tire on the front wheel of my Honda XR650L. It performs very well on pavement, even at 85 mph, and it will keep you upright in the nastiest mud you will encounter.

http://www.edgextremesports.com/stor...SVZhoC-gTw_wcB



Although it is never advertised as such, the CST, Surge I tire is DOT approved.

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