Icebear Scooters ?? Any good??

[Goob]

Just curious. Are Icebear Scooters any good?

[tortoise]

Originally Posted by Goob

Are Icebear Scooters any good?

Vision 150 discussion.

[ZiptieJonez]

Personally, not a fan of ice bear. Their stuff always *looks* nice, but is usually pretty sloppy. That being said, they do tend to have a somewhat solid following.

I recommend Wolf. If it was the vision line you were looking at, they have a similar model, the rugby. Their Jets and Jet IIs are solid, as well as the entry level rx50. The V-150s are also an awesome choice if you want something bigger than a 50.

I did a 72cc kit on an RX-50 this week and it was pretty quick after a little carb/airflow work.

[Barnone]

My Ice Bear Vision 150 is still going strong. Ride her almost every day. On my second set of tires. Had to replace the tail light as the stop light burned out.

[wheelbender6]

What size are you considering? They make 150cc, 300cc and some trikes. They make 150cc Grom Clones too.

[Barnone]

Originally Posted by wheelbender6

What size are you considering? They make 150cc, 300cc and some trikes. They make 150cc Grom Clones too.

Who you asking?
I don't think that Ice Bear actually manufactures the ones they sell. The Ice Bear Vision 150 I own is like the ones that other sell with their brand on them. I don't think Wolf manufactures the bikes they sell.

[culcune]

Originally Posted by Barnone

Who you asking?
I don't think that Ice Bear actually manufactures the ones they sell. The Ice Bear Vision 150 I own is like the ones that other sell with their brand on them. I don't think Wolf manufactures the bikes they sell.

According to the EPA/DOT certification list, the parent company (I cannot recall offhand who it is) of Ice Bear is the manufacturer of record. They actually certify their CT70 replica with their scooters. I recall Pete from Kronik Racing saying good things about Ice Bear, but I do believe he had a falling out with them so no longer shows Ice Bear on his site. I think it had something to do with one retailer getting better treatment than his and others from Ice Bear, not due to quality. He never had good things to to say about Taotao, which is why he never carried them, but did carry other low-cost brands, such as Ice Bear.

However, Wolf's scooters use ZNEN as the OEM from what I remember. ZNEN is the OEM for several brands, including BMS, SSR, Amigo, and others. From what I gather, ZNEN is pretty decent, and companies can spec the models to their liking, which is why some 'brands' (i.e. Amigo or Wolf) have a good rep.

[Barnone]

Only thing I know is that there are many different sellers of the clone of the Yamaha Zuma 125 which my Ice Bear Vision 150 is one of. All look pretty much the same except for the name.

google "yamaha zuma clone" and you get lots of hit for scooters similar to mine with different names. Some are a clone of the older Yamaha Zuma.

The manufacturer of my scooter is
https://www.zhenhuagm.com/products/m...oter/dwsv.html

[culcune]

I am guessing that is the parent company of Ice Bear. I recognize a few of the products.

[Barnone]

Originally Posted by culcune

I am guessing that is the parent company of Ice Bear. I recognize a few of the products.

The Yamaha Zuma clone they manufacture like mine. No Ice Bear name on it. No mention of Ice Bear on their website.

[culcune]

I believe they are the OEM for most, if not all, of Ice Bear's scooter lineup, then. Ice Bear seems to be the company that arranges to renew the EPA/DOT certification year after year. The way the certification reads on the EPA/DOT Excel spreadsheet, it appears that Ice Bear is the OEM (Pacific something or another is the company of record), but you are showing they are not. A comparison would be similar to CSC is the company of record for their Zongshen-sourced bikes on the EPA/DOT certificate, but is not the manufacturer as we know.

[moresnow]

Any direction/recommendation on where to look at buying a Ice Bear 150 Vision? I've been looking here.

https://www.megamotormadness.com/pro...-150cc-scooter

Following @Barnone elsewhere has got my interest in this make/model. I am open to other suggestions as well. Thanks.

[OneLeggedRider]

My Ice Bear 150 Trike is the nicest and highest quality out of all the 5 China bikes I've bought. But it's also the most expensive at $2,550.

[culcune]

Originally Posted by moresnow

Any direction/recommendation on where to look at buying a Ice Bear 150 Vision? I've been looking here.

https://www.megamotormadness.com/pro...-150cc-scooter

Following @Barnone elsewhere has got my interest in this make/model. I am open to other suggestions as well. Thanks.

There was one particular scooter I was interested in that was on Ice Bear's website, but no one was offering it. It was a clone-ish rendition of the Zuma 50 2T (but Ice Bear's was a 4 stroke). I called the general phone number and a VERY rude woman, with a thick Asian accent, kept telling me they don't sell retail. I had to keep explaining I just wanted to know IF they had the bike in the US, and where would they (she) recommend. She did recommend megamotormadness (still rudely, LOL), which I am guessing there might be some kind of relationship seeing as both are in the same area of the greater Los Angeles region. So, they must be okay to order from, of course with the usual caveats of most all mail-order places like after-sale service, etc. One Ice Bear dealer I would look into is Cajon Maddogs in the New Orleans area. Alan, the owner, seems to only deal in Ice Bear, and has made them into a sort of local 'cult' following, mainly the Maddog scooters, but also with the CT-70 replicas that Ice Bear carry(the Champion 125). I would check with Cajon Maddog, first. I don't think there are many after-sale caveats with them, so definitely put them on your list as far as anything Ice Bear. Tell him I sent you.

[olds_cool63]

I haven't been much impressed by the reviews of IceBear scooters. I've heard a LOT of "they look great, but aren't good in quality".

Guess I'll never know...too many other brands with better reps.